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iDShaDoW Posts : 94 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 07, 2009 Posted by snodrifter Class works, but those chicks are, at this point, 5-6 younger (than me). Yup, I'm in the same boat man. I'm on my sophomore year (B.A.) of credits in college and I'mma be 26 in May lol. Lot of cute chicks on campus but they're all like 18-20 year range and I just feel like my outlook and mindset are different than theirs. I could probably lie and pass as their age too cause I just look young but that's not the right way to go about looking for something real and I'm not the hit it and quit it type. Posted by bernwern Just staying busy with work, friends, etc. Trying to keep a level head and not trust my heart, as it has obviously failed me (twice now, for that matter). I guess the good guys really do finish last. Sorry to hear that man, just keep it up cause in the ends that's all you can really do. Keep putting one foot in front of the other.

snodrifter Posts : 1111 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 09, 2009 Posted by iDShaDoW Yup, I'm in the same boat man. I'm on my sophomore year (B.A.) of credits in college and I'mma be 26 in May lol. Lot of cute chicks on campus but they're all like 18-20 year range and I just feel like my outlook and mindset are different than theirs. I could probably lie and pass as their age too cause I just look young but that's not the right way to go about looking for something real and I'm not the hit it and quit it type. Gotta hit it and quit it. I've learned (been harshly taught many times by reality?) that looking for something "real" with most women in their 20s (particularly if you yourself do not have a "real" job) is one of the most ridiculously stupid things that you can do. It's like, girls my age expect a guy to wear a collared shirt and talk about bullshit like jobs, money, houses, furniture, etc, and younger girls are, well, younger girls. At this point, fuck it and forget it is about the only real course of action that I feel I have anymore.
	Dirty, but invigorating. With a pinch of depression, but a heaping spoonful of arrogance. "I'm here to let my guard down and make bad decisions!"

tooscoops "Funny, but.. FIRED!" Posts : 5064 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 09, 2009 don't take offence by this, but it sounds like you are saying you don't want to grow up, but you want the girls to? not really a fair deal in my opinion! believe me though, there are a ton of girls out there in the same boat as you. part time jobs, students, whatever who just want some fun and are willing to grow with the guy. there are all types. my problem i found when i was in the same boat was that guys in that state like to go out and get drunk and party, whereas the female counterparts, do all they can to avoid bars and the drunk guys. makes it hard to find a girl that is compatible. good luck with whatever you decide to do at least. worst case scenario, you are getting laid!
	haikus are easy but sometimes they don't make sense refrigerator

snodrifter Posts : 1111 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 09, 2009 Posted by tooscoops don't take offence by this, but it sounds like you are saying you don't want to grow up, but you want the girls to? not really a fair deal in my opinion! believe me though, there are a ton of girls out there in the same boat as you. part time jobs, students, whatever who just want some fun and are willing to grow with the guy. there are all types. my problem i found when i was in the same boat was that guys in that state like to go out and get drunk and party, whereas the female counterparts, do all they can to avoid bars and the drunk guys. makes it hard to find a girl that is compatible. good luck with whatever you decide to do at least. worst case scenario, you are getting laid! It's not that I don't want to grow up, I don't want to follow the yuppie mold of growing up, which seems to be what a LOT of people get sucked into. Just not my thing. I find those types look down on me hardcore. And yeah, I definitely go out and booze, but kinda because I don't have anyone to stay at home with. And try to meet a girl outside of a bar, and I find that they put up a LOT of walls. I get "I have a boyfriend" usually within the first four or five sentences out of my mouth. And the problem with the girls in my situation is that I used to be a totally nice no worries with commitment type dude, and I found I'd develop feelings and get completely burned (not in a bacterial sense...) by them because they don't wanna be tied down or whatever. Honestly, I've pretty much completely abandoned the idea of having any kind of actual relationship. Part of it probably has to do with waking up every morning for the past several years with the knowledge that you don't really have anyone who gives a fuck about you, or for years when you actually express feelings towards someone, it's generally the last thing you ever get to say to them. (fucked up shit, I know) I think that part of it, too, is all the "grown up" shit I had to do between 19-24 to the point that it's pretty hard to relate to anyone my age. Like, they're going through now, at 27, 28, etc, what I went through at 22, being married, buying a house, etc. And for me, since I already went through my "oooh, I have money, material possessions FTW!" bullshit phase, and grew out of it, I'm kinda not so impressed by it. I dunno, it's really really really weird how things work I think. I also think, btw, that girls in my 'situation', it's different, because they still want a guy who can 'take care of them', money wise, ya know? Like, that situation isn't a huge turn off for a dude like it is for a chick, ya know?
	Dirty, but invigorating. With a pinch of depression, but a heaping spoonful of arrogance. "I'm here to let my guard down and make bad decisions!"

tooscoops "Funny, but.. FIRED!" Posts : 5064 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 09, 2009 next time a girl puts up the 'i have a boyfriend' wall.. say, "oh, no problem, me too! i'm just talking(and joking about being gay by the way)"... if you get nice with her without being creepy, if she really is with a guy, she'll set you up with friends that she pictures you getting along with (in my opinion, an even better situation than picking random girls at the bar and hoping shes cool) meh... i'm sure you'll come out of it somehow... meeting some girl in line at a coffee shop, at the checkout at the grocers... whatever. sorry to hear you are getting burned all the time... i say its just a phase and that you are worrying about the commitment part too much. i have a few friends who were/are in the same position... they are realizing that getting set up and/or internet dating isn't all that bad.
	haikus are easy but sometimes they don't make sense refrigerator

snodrifter Posts : 1111 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 09, 2009 Posted by tooscoops next time a girl puts up the 'i have a boyfriend' wall.. say, "oh, no problem, me too! i'm just talking(and joking about being gay by the way)"... if you get nice with her without being creepy, if she really is with a guy, she'll set you up with friends that she pictures you getting along with (in my opinion, an even better situation than picking random girls at the bar and hoping shes cool) meh... i'm sure you'll come out of it somehow... meeting some girl in line at a coffee shop, at the checkout at the grocers... whatever. sorry to hear you are getting burned all the time... i say its just a phase and that you are worrying about the commitment part too much. i have a few friends who were/are in the same position... they are realizing that getting set up and/or internet dating isn't all that bad. well, that's the funky part, too. I don't even necessarily want anything committed or serious, but, I dunno, monogamous fucking sounds great. Haha, that and having someone to chill with. Maybe it's an impossible scenario, and I'm thinking back to when I was 19 too much. Who knows. It was NEVER this hard to find a good looking, smart chick who was just as in to me as I was her. Yeah, I'm also not motivated enough anymore to try past the "i have a boyfriend". I also don't think I'm creepy, either. I used to be really really good at that random conversation shit, and it seems to be getting worse (a girl told me I was a "fucking creep" once for telling her, genuinely, that she had beautiful eyes. I found that, the more and more women treat me like I'm an asshole, the more and more I actually become one, or, at least, act like one) as for the internet... well... I've found that, uh, that's kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel. A friend made me flip through some listings and to each one it was like "nope... nope... nope... hell no... nope... nope..." I mean, if they don't look like I'd talk to them out and about, I'm not about to send them an email. Heh.
	Dirty, but invigorating. With a pinch of depression, but a heaping spoonful of arrogance. "I'm here to let my guard down and make bad decisions!"

sharonkeller Posts : 61 OFFLINE	Posted on Mar 09, 2009 Posted by snodrifter as for the internet... well... I've found that, uh, that's kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel. A friend made me flip through some listings and to each one it was like "nope... nope... nope... hell no... nope... nope..." I mean, if they don't look like I'd talk to them out and about, I'm not about to send them an email. Heh. bottom of the barrel... im kind of cute/smart sometimes...

elsnowboardo "Helpful Post Whore" Posts : 14677 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 09, 2009 Posted by sharonkeller Posted by snodrifter as for the internet... well... I've found that, uh, that's kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel. A friend made me flip through some listings and to each one it was like "nope... nope... nope... hell no... nope... nope..." I mean, if they don't look like I'd talk to them out and about, I'm not about to send them an email. Heh. bottom of the barrel... im kind of cute/smart sometimes... Wanna go make out?
	f*ck the rest die like the Best! angrysnowboarder.com know it, love it, read it I'm so corporate its hardcorporate!

bernwern Posts : 1130 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 10, 2009 I totally get where snodrifter is coming from. I may not be in the same situation, but I can identify with it. If my situation turns in to that, which I see happening, life is going to suck. So my divorce is very real at this point, as she now has the paperwork and scheduled for a free consult with a lawyer....it will be done amicably because I still love her, and the lawyer is only to double-check our paperwork and ensure it is solid. But I spent 10 years of my life with this girl, and after only 16 months of marriage, she bails....won't even try to work on it, despite my offering to pay for marriage counseling. Talk about getting burned. So where does that leave me? Well, despite the heartbreak, I will be a 30 year old divorcee. I don't even want to think about looking for someone, as they would be a rebound and I would never want someone to get hurt like I am. And even if things do move forward for the better, I am unsure I will ever be able to trust another woman. It would also seem, at a glance, that the majority of the chill/smart/fun girls my age are taken or may not be into me. So what does that leave? Man-whoring with younguns and cougars? Not me, and never has been me. Maybe it will be me, but I try to hold myself to higher standards. Here's the fucked up part. And this is NOT to look down on snodrifter, or anyone, because that's not me...each person makes their own life choices, and they are not for me to judge. I am a stable and reliable guy. I have a good job making good money, and been doing it for over 3 years in this position (over 5 consecutive with the company). I have very little debt (student loans, a car that will be paid off in less than a year, and less than $1000 in credit card debt). By all counts, I am living the "yuppy" lifestyle snowdrifter mentioned, but my job allows me to still enjoy my hobbies and my co-workers know who I am, which is not just another yuppy. Even so, things are not rosy. So ultimately, going back on topic with the original post, why are most women scandolous? I mean, my wife could have had the lifestyle she wanted....but didn't even want to work on things. She seems bi-polar as of late. And nearly every woman I know went through a "crazy" phase at soem point in their 20's, including my wife when we broke up like 4 years ago....and after giving her a second chance, eventually marrying her, she does this shit again? Seriously, WTF? Oh well. Guess I take this as another life-lesson learned and move on. I got through alot of other stupid mistakes before, I guess this is just another one. Let's hope those of us looking can find a counterpoint in another person, but the odds look slim. -B
	Ride now, work later! All work and no play is totally missing the point.

jk147 Posts : 1015 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 10, 2009 In my experience, most of the marriage or relationships never works out when the couple is in their early to mid 20s. Especially if the relationship is from college to a real job after college, life is different after college and most people are just getting used to what real world is like. A lot of them will feel like they missed out on something, and want to see it for themselves. I am no longer in my 20s and looking back this happened to most of my friends, including myself. If you are still young, just get out there and do as much as you can. Who cares about getting burned, there are lots of other options out there. Time is on your side.

tooscoops "Funny, but.. FIRED!" Posts : 5064 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 10, 2009 i don't know what to say there.... when you are together on and off for ten years, THEN decide to get married?... i have to think thats trouble. seems like the marriage is just to nail each other down rather than because you love each other. it seems like a lot of people are in the same boat... also, when people break up at some point then get back together... i never understand that. if you broke up, things seemed unmanageable at some point.. what makes you think it will get better with the added pressures of marriage? i say good riddence... though i'm sorry you spent so long tied down. hopefully there were lots of good times to recall and you are able to move on and trust both women and yourself.
	haikus are easy but sometimes they don't make sense refrigerator

lakia "PC Partyman" Posts : 3982 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 10, 2009 I could write a book on this stuff. Guys what you need to do is not sweat the dumb broads. You can pick em out of a crowd, especially in a bar very easily. There are real women out there. Problem is a WOMAN is hard to find. Most of the time you meet dumb broads. I know a couple 21 and 22 year old females i would consider good women. But seriously, broads are a dime a dozen. Fuck em and forget em. Keep your head about you, if they start acting stupid and crazy dont even bother talking to them, walk away and leave it alone. Most chicks arent worth the time of day friends. No joke. Now who wants to go take a bubble bath?
	You know youre getting old when your ol lady says "honey lets run up stairs and make love" and you say "sorry i cant do both!" For True Since 1984

bernwern Posts : 1130 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 10, 2009 Posted by tooscoops i don't know what to say there.... when you are together on and off for ten years, THEN decide to get married?... i have to think thats trouble. seems like the marriage is just to nail each other down rather than because you love each other. it seems like a lot of people are in the same boat... also, when people break up at some point then get back together... i never understand that. if you broke up, things seemed unmanageable at some point.. what makes you think it will get better with the added pressures of marriage? i say good riddence... though i'm sorry you spent so long tied down. hopefully there were lots of good times to recall and you are able to move on and trust both women and yourself. Yes, it was off and on for 12 years, but together for 10. Before I even agreed to start seeing her again, she went through some personal counseling. Things were better. After over a year of dating again, things we great. So we pulled the trigger after another 9 months. So yes, maybe I made a mistake taking her back. At the time, all seemed well and fine. She was the one to break us up last time as well, so maybe that was a good indicator, but my heart chose to ignore it. For the record, I was 28 when we got married. She was 30, so I don't think age was the issue. I had thought both of us were beyond the petty bullshit and insanity, but I guess that was just me and the facade she fooled me with. Hind-sight is always 20/20. I guess I am just jaded over it all. I'm typically a very optimistic guy. -B
	Ride now, work later! All work and no play is totally missing the point.

snodrifter Posts : 1111 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 10, 2009 Posted by bernwern I guess I am just jaded over it all. I'm typically a very optimistic guy. -B I'd say that's where I'm at. I dunno if someone posted it here or not, but when you have love, and lose it, you realize just how good it can be. Like, I miss the stupid little shit, like coming home from work or a mission and her being ridiculously excited to see me, or having someone I can talk to or call about anything at all, and not be judged or criticized (of course, if I actually had a relationship with my 'family' I wonder if that stuff would be so important?). I definitely got married too young but it was, one, kinda accelerated by the whole military thing, and, two, we were, well, pretty much perfect. I've never come close to meeting a woman who I had so much in common with, hobbies or personality. Not even in the same universe close. I definitely did change, though. I figure I'd be far FAR more miserable if I kept my standards, and didn't get laid, at all, in the last few years. I'd rather do the one night stand thing than have NOTHING. So, that's where I'm at. But it's still something that'll fuck your ass up if you go several years and every time you have feelings or a crush on a woman, she totally shoots you do. It's really the absolute lack of reciprocation over anything else. The way I see it now, women really do reap what they collectively sew with men.
	Dirty, but invigorating. With a pinch of depression, but a heaping spoonful of arrogance. "I'm here to let my guard down and make bad decisions!"

sharonkeller Posts : 61 OFFLINE	Posted on Mar 10, 2009 i think that if all you have is one night stands, how can you even expect the girl on the other end to take YOU seriously as well? I mean if your in the scene to fuck around, and would like someone to be committed or interested in some sort of relationship, then you yourself are being hypocritical. Yeah, a lot of women are scandalous bitches, but definately same thing on your side.. sounds corny but get on match.com or something, i heard this ad on the radio about eventsandadventures.com i believe... singles doing fun stuff together like "skiing and volleyball and trips" or some shit. really sucks about the divorces and stuff.. seems like everythings good and then it turns out shitty... i dont know what to say about that.. im just hoping to meet a good guy like you guys with the girls.. thats what everyone hopes for you know... youre not the only one!

tooscoops "Funny, but.. FIRED!" Posts : 5064 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 11, 2009 yeah.. i was waiting for a girl to come in and post! i figured it wasn't just me as seeing it as completely one sided here. guys, i understand where your coming from... but try to look at what your doing from a female perspective. sometimes when you go into things expecting girls to be 'scandelous bitches' it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. next time, don't try buying them drinks or telling them how beautiful their eyes are, because they've heard it all before and are usually quite sick of it... just say hey, smile, and buy yourself a drink. try to enjoy the aspect of going out, instead of thinking if you don't pick up you've wasted a night.
	haikus are easy but sometimes they don't make sense refrigerator

bernwern Posts : 1130 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 12, 2009 Posted by tooscoops yeah.. i was waiting for a girl to come in and post! i figured it wasn't just me as seeing it as completely one sided here. guys, i understand where your coming from... but try to look at what your doing from a female perspective. sometimes when you go into things expecting girls to be 'scandelous bitches' it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. next time, don't try buying them drinks or telling them how beautiful their eyes are, because they've heard it all before and are usually quite sick of it... just say hey, smile, and buy yourself a drink. try to enjoy the aspect of going out, instead of thinking if you don't pick up you've wasted a night. Thanks Sharon for the input, and Mikey for the analysis. This makes a good deal of sense. Hopefully I don't put out the "I like scandalous bitches" vibe when I am ready to take the next step. Oh well, I will now have unlimited free time to disc golf and snowboard at will :) Also, I agree with snodrifters point about having loved and lost. You do see things differently. Hopefully it will allow me to see through the bullshit and find something better, but I certainly don't see it that way now. Back to listening to Interpol and working....thanks for all the feedback :) -B
	Ride now, work later! All work and no play is totally missing the point.

Killclimbz "Backcountry addict" Posts : 4272 OFFLINE	Posted on Mar 12, 2009 Sorry to hear about the divorce B. I havn't been keeping up as much as I could on here, but things are just slow. All I can add is that it's good you are just getting through this one. You're still plenty young. Get the big "D" over with and move on. Also, don't worry about finding "someone" else. I guarantee that the someone else will most likely find you. It's when you are not looking that the best ones fall in your lap. Just be smart enough to hang on to that person when they pop into your life.
	If there is a more pointless place to argue than the web... I don't know about it.

kendrat "Sexy Mrs. Tooscoops" Posts : 3098 OFFLINE	Posted on Mar 12, 2009 yup, i fully was not looking AT ALL... and then i met mike. and now we'll be walking down the aisle in less than three months. there are 'right' people out there... it just takse a lot to find them. the sad thing is, a lot of so-called 'scandalous bitches' are made that way by the men who they allow into their lives. if a girl never gets what she wants by being the nice girl next door, you gotta expect her to try soemthing different. that's like all the boys who whine about how 'no girls ever like the nice guys'. it's a vicious circle. you go out looking for someone to make you happy; only, 90% of the time that person's looking for the same thing, and they put on the facade of what they think you want, as you are for them. and it turns out, they only make you happy for right now. you get to know them better, and vice versa, and that person's not who you thought they were, and not who you want to be with. it frustrates me when soemone dismisses all women (or all men) based on the fact that the ones they pick up at the bar/club are fake and not interested in them as a person. grow up! if that's not working for you, try something else. people don't generally go to the bar looking for a long term relationship. what did you expect, really? the best thing is to do the stuff that you love. if you love going to bars and getting drunk, then the bar whores might actually work out for you. but if you like snowboarding, then do it, and make an effort to talk to people who are actually riding. take a course in something that interests you, and see who else shows up (and there are courses at community colleges and stuff that are geared towards non-first year university students!). who knows what could happen?
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elsnowboardo "Helpful Post Whore" Posts : 14677 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 12, 2009 Hookers and blow they solve all problems.
	f*ck the rest die like the Best! angrysnowboarder.com know it, love it, read it I'm so corporate its hardcorporate!

tooscoops "Funny, but.. FIRED!" Posts : 5064 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 13, 2009 except for my current problem of a dead hooker overdosed on blow in my trunk... oh well... she was already dead on the inside, right? i have a few friends that are in the same boat... feel too 'old' to go out and attempt to pick up, plus, doesn't want the type of girl they'd get... i suggested becoming a big brother... not only will that be rewarding on its own, but it allows you to go out, meet new people in very different places than you would normally go... pick up a girl in the line to a roller coaster... chat to the grade 2 teacher... plan 'double play dates' with your little brother and someone elses little sister... plus, even if it doesn't help you meet a girl.. when a girl eventually finds out that you are involved with big brothers... gotta earn you a point or two. worst case scenario is that you did something to help a kids life. heh.. this post was funny.. start with hookers and blow, end with big brothers and helping children.
	haikus are easy but sometimes they don't make sense refrigerator

snodrifter Posts : 1111 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 13, 2009 Posted by tooscoops next time, don't try buying them drinks or telling them how beautiful their eyes are, because they've heard it all before and are usually quite sick of it... just say hey, smile, and buy yourself a drink. try to enjoy the aspect of going out, instead of thinking if you don't pick up you've wasted a night. I have a rule, I never, ever, ever, ever, EVER buy a woman a drink. I usually don't throw out compliments either. Heh, I remember this one girl I was kinda dating, I told her that I dug her hair and she flipped out like "wow, did you just say something nice? I'm gonna remember that!" Also, that's generally all I do. Going out is generally just hanging out with my buddies and getting totally waste face and having fun by causing all sorts of mayhem. Posted by elsnowboardo Hookers and blow they solve all problems. Truth. In a possibly related note, I have a buddy who lives in Tampa and there have been discussions about me moving down there and us starting up a porn site with home grown content. I mean, I figure, our only expenses would be the female talent, between the two of us, the video production and web development is taken care of, so, what else is there? I think it should be pointed out that, again, looking for someone doesn't always mean like, a serious relationship. Kinda like a "hey, you're hot, let's screw. Constantly." type deal (that quote would be a mutual thing). You know, one of those fuck all the time and hang out and have fun type deals. No nagging, no serious BS, exclusive but not super seriously committed. Haha, does that even make sense or sound plausible?
	Dirty, but invigorating. With a pinch of depression, but a heaping spoonful of arrogance. "I'm here to let my guard down and make bad decisions!"

sharonkeller Posts : 61 OFFLINE	Posted on Mar 13, 2009 screwing constantly would most definately lead to emotions being involved.. at least with most people who have feelings... about the compliment thing.. yeah some girls might be like fuck off in a bar.. its just a little forward or corny or a 'hey i know youre trying to get in my pants so go away' kind of deal.. but if you actually hang out or 'sort of date' a girl, you better fucking say something nice every once in a while! yeah you will have shitty relationships in your life, but honestly.. youre going to have to move on. Im still in this yeah i would like a boyfriend but its nice being single.. not really looking, but if a situation arrives i might actually ask a guy if he wants to hang out.. you know.. not looking but hopefully 'the right one' falls in my lap someday... it hasnt worked so far but im just being patient... being optamistic really helps in this situation.. so basically.. quit sulking and whining and get over it.. in the nicest way possible anyways.

elsnowboardo "Helpful Post Whore" Posts : 14677 ONLINE	Posted on Mar 13, 2009 "Something nice once in a while." Does that mean we can screw now?
	f*ck the rest die like the Best! angrysnowboarder.com know it, love it, read it I'm so corporate its hardcorporate!

sharonkeller Posts : 61 OFFLINE	Posted on Mar 13, 2009 Posted by elsnowboardo "Something nice once in a while." Does that mean we can screw now? I think you love me

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