Posted by slimp_dawg
Pull your head out of your ass Lakia. YOU will NEVER make millions. YOU will NEVER make the amount of money that should make you concerned with Obama's tax structure. The reason the US is in the situation we're in is because EVERYONE is greedy. From the CEOs to the small minimum wage earner in Spokane. Greed. Gotta have my cars, flat screens, guns, snowboards, etc... and if I can't pay for it today, I'll slap down the credit card and pay it later. And with all that false "wealth" plastic gave us, we completely ignored the fact that we were not truly gaining wealth. We were digging ourselves deeper in to holes. We ignored the fact that while our credit went up, our pays stayed the same and products went up. But we didn't car because we were still getting stuff... no buying, getting, because we all used credit.

^^^And keep in mind the tax structure and government policies of Clinton put us in a surplus, while Bush put us in a record deficit. All the tax breaks the rich are getting now are not leading to trickle down. The are heavily taxed, yet have the US has the least in tax REVENUE because of all the loopholes givin' to the rich corporations. So, in reality, they aren't payin much in taxes. And it's FACT that the top 4% went from controlling 9& of the wealth to 22% of the wealth in the US over the last 8 years. That doesn't seem like trickle down... it's the gaddamn opposite.

Obama is not denying that the deregulations of the banks was appropriate. And in fact, Bush had mulitiple chances over the last 8 years to do something about it. It was a good idea to get some stuff rolling, but after the writing was on the wall, some regulations needed to be stamped down and they weren't. What do you think Obama is going to do?

Now Lakia, let me ask you this. If you bust your ass, and make a good living, what do you consider A LOT of money. Would 200,000 a year be a lot. Maybe 250,000? If you bust your ass, and make 250,000, you're not getting taxed any more than you are today! Now, if you are one of those rich CEOs that's making MILLIONS, I could see why you might get pissed. I mean for fucks sake, you've been raping your employees for 8 plus years now. Not giving them pay raises to match the cost of living, yet increase the cost of your product. You've been giving yourself muli million dollar bonuses and higher pay every year. And now, when the country is in the shitter, you're asked to do your part and pay some extra taxes... you'll still make millions, though. But that's just down right UNAMERICAN to think that you should help out your country.

Pull your head out of your ass Lakia. YOU will NEVER make millions. YOU will NEVER make the amount of money that should make you concerned with Obama's tax structure.

Posted by slimp_dawg
Question Davesc2... if libs are the ones "tearing" down, why is it the county is in a huge shit hole right now?

High paid execs are not the problem, and those who think they should be punished just for making money are not thinking clearly. However, since a large sum of money is being re-allocating from the middle class to the upper 4%, it would be nice if they all banded together and said, shit man, I'll pay a little more in taxes so that the economy can get a pick me up. I'll still be making a ton, and I can scale back a little, much like the rest of the population has had to do. Now, the execs who clearly did some shady shit, those are the ones needing to be punished. Like the fuckheads that falsified loan applications to give higher loans to people who never should have qualified.

The real problem with this country is not the high paid execs, or the corporations. It's the people who LOVE to point out the faults of the "other" party, rather than banding together as a society and making it work together.

 There's a real divide right now, and it's a shame that republicans are HOPING for the failure of the President. Wouldn't that mean we fail as a country. Instead of being so close minded, why not hold out some hope that our current President can help and let's all do what we can to support him. Disagreeing with him is one thing, hoping for failure is another.

Posted by slimp_dawg
I am curious how you feel Obama's policies will fail? Or are you just saying they're going to fail because you feel that way.

I don't disagree that falsified loan applications weren't a part in this whole thing.

 But again, you place all the blame on the execs (and I am in no way letting their shady actions off the hook), without holding those who took the loans responsible.

That's bullshit. If you make 40k a year, and get approved for a 500k house, can't you do the math in your own fucking head and figure it out... YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT! Just because you got approved doesn't mean you should take the entire amount. That goes for credit cards as well. And over the last 30 years, America has dug itself as a society deeper and deeper in to debt. The execs have gotten greedier and greedier, the consumer has gotten greedier and greedier, and it's all be plastic money and no real wealth.

And yes, I have disagreed with a lot of Bush's policies and pointed that out... here's the kicker, my disapproval of his policies are justified in the current state of life in the US. We're fucked. Obama didn't do this to us and is trying like hell to get us out. If in 4 years we're just as fucked, or no better off, then I'd say his policies didn't work. But I'm not going to rag on him after two months when this shitstorm we're in is gonna continue for a while and he had very little to do with it. AND, as it just so happens, I do agree with many of his policies. Let's just hope that the republicans in congress will actually allow some of those policies to take hold.