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Rumor

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Posted on Nov 19, 2006

Remember kids:

Someone who has mastered a wide array of tricks on smaller ramps, beats the crap out of someone who can do one trick, but can land a higher jump.

If you didn't get what I said---
It's better to spend your time learning solid tricks and mastering them, than to land one jump then move up until you can get the 30 ft. climbs.

At least I have chicken


roadrunner1659

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Posted on Nov 25, 2006

Hey guys i was wondering...some of these things your telling me to learn b4 going into the park see to be based around balance...

I was wondering can i sorta practice ollies and nollies and nose and tail presses at home in my basement b4 the season begins?

would this help me in anyway?

Thanks!


boarderaholic
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Posted on Nov 25, 2006

Posted by roadrunner1659
Hey guys i was wondering...some of these things your telling me to learn b4 going into the park see to be based around balance...

I was wondering can i sorta practice ollies and nollies and nose and tail presses at home in my basement b4 the season begins?

would this help me in anyway?

Thanks!

Oh heck yeah this will help on the hill. It doesn't provide the exact same feel as if you are sliding down the hill, but it definately helps none the less!
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roadrunner1659

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Posted on Nov 25, 2006

cool thanks! anything else i can practice at home without snow in my basement haha or are these about it...

F430

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Posted on Nov 25, 2006

Was up at whistler today, was just messin around didnt really go in the park cuz i wanted to take it easy, but yea i found doing 180's was alot easier with my slightly ducked stance. Also on the green runs i did some long ass butters, good fun. Next time i go i want to try out some rails, i'll admit im pretty pussy to try em cuz i have the attitude "how am i gonna fuck this up?" but yea i figured i'd start on some boxes. Thought i might just add that


bloodredbliz...

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Posted on Nov 26, 2006

yeah I kinda suck at buttering and all that, but I pulled a solid tailslide on the easy trail with my new agent ;).
 
somene HELP ME though. I have trouble landing flat, I always, for some reason, land on my toe edge when I ollie/nollie. WHY? how can I change it?
 
once I get those dialed I'm gonna hit up the park.
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steamer59

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Posted on Nov 26, 2006

I've got a Palmer Strike, which is also an all-around board. I like to ride the whole mountain, and my board works well everywhere. As long as your board isn't too long, it should be fine in the park.

Drnwagn

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Posted on Nov 29, 2006

Posted by boarderaholic
Well, first things first, do you have the basics down? Ie: ollies, nollies, tail/nose presses. Can you ride switch? Etc etc? If no to any of these questions, don't even think about approaching park features until you have basic freestyle skills down.
 
I know what ollies and nollies are but explain what a tail/nose press is?  ARe you referring to what a skater would call a nose wheelie and a manual?

freakazoid

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Posted on Nov 29, 2006

Posted by Drnwagn
Posted by boarderaholic
Well, first things first, do you have the basics down? Ie: ollies, nollies, tail/nose presses. Can you ride switch? Etc etc? If no to any of these questions, don't even think about approaching park features until you have basic freestyle skills down.
 
I know what ollies and nollies are but explain what a tail/nose press is?  ARe you referring to what a skater would call a nose wheelie and a manual?


yes, simply shift your weight so your center of gravity (belly button) is above the wanted point of pressure (nose or tail) i suggest practicing these on flat ground before trying to do a nose press ;) As you'll probably end up doing what we all do when we show off a nice nosepress and we're goofing around, you'll execute a beutiful Scorpion! for those who dont know what it is, it's when you face plant and your legs with your board go over your head, thus making you look liek a scorpion :D

Drnwagn

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Posted on Nov 30, 2006

That is what I thought you were talking about but man, this is like learning a new language!

freakazoid

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Posted on Nov 30, 2006

Thats what its all about, if your gonna snowboard, you better speak it first :p

Avaric3

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Posted on Dec 04, 2006

u can practice in the basement, but its just not the same as ridin snow.  however its better than nothin

[Edited by Avaric3 on 12/4/2006 at 4:02 PM]

ProductZ

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Posted on Dec 04, 2006

dude - avaric, please change your member photo.


Yea - Roadrunner.  Your just going to have to wait until you can actually ride.  I know your enthusiastic now, but the key is to stay that way and keep progressing avoiding discouragement around every corner.


FreshChris

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Posted on Dec 05, 2006

ok hands down the best begginner trick because it is very simle, and if done right looks downright amazing
are shiftys
or just straight airs with a fun grab, tweak it if you have more experience

Ben_S

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Posted on Dec 05, 2006

Posted by FreshChris
ok hands down the best begginner trick because it is very simle, and if done right looks downright amazing
are shiftys
or just straight airs with a fun grab, tweak it if you have more experience


Except for the small fact that a shifty is actually quite a complicated pair of counter-rotational movements. It can be an EXTREMELY dangerous trick if you don't know how to use conter-rotation properly. The easiest way to adjust a straight air for style is an indie. Easiest 'trick' you can do.

If you're trying to do a shifty, make sure you're going to be safe doing it by practicing the movement on the snow first.

Backside Shifty: Practice by riding straight down the fall line on a shallow hill. If you start off with your arms inline with  the board (in a - position) you're going to twist your upperbody towards the nose of the board, while using the force of the movement to bring the board round straight across the hill. This SHOULD leave your upper body in exactly the same position while the board is now on a toeside sideslip (in a + position). To return back to straight running simply reverse the movement. Bring your body round in line with the board again. Both of these moves should be short, sharp and swift: TACK (to + position) and then TACK (to - postion). This use of counter-rotation is also going to be the basics of any big rotations (over 360) so it's worth getting REALLY good at it now. Once you've got used to that, and you can do it on increasingly steep terrain while keeping your upperbody strong and using counter-rotation, NOT edge control, to manouver the board it's time to move onto the jump. It's exactly the same movement. Ride up the jump in the - position, arms in line over the board. Pop with both feet equally (if you don't you'll lose your balance and the movement will throw you onto your face). Once you're in the air, use exactly the same counter-rotation movement to bring the board directly across underneath you to the 90deg. + position. As you're learning this trick the first few attempts should then be straight back to the - position to prepare for landing. As you get more confident you can hold the shifty for longer periods of time, or start to use it with a tweak or grab.

Frontside Shifty: This time, when practicing on the snow first, start in the + position, with your arms out to your side while your upper body is twisted over the nose of the board. The reason for this, is that it gives you more power for the counter rotation in this direction. When you make the first movement to the - position it's a clockwise movement with the upper body. This should leave the board facing 90deg to your direction of travel (across the slope). Then make the second movement back to the + position, with the board running downhill. This should, again, be a really sharp movement: TACK (into - position) TACK (back to + position). Once you can do this you can, once again take it to the jump, only difference being the run in to the jump will be with your body in the + position.

Once you are happy with this type of Frontside shifty it's time to give it the same easy style as the backside shifty. This time, you're going to start in the - position, but make the same movement as in the normal Frontside shifty, to the + position. This is MUCH more difficult in a Frontside shifty than in a Backside shifty. Once you're happy making the same strong 90deg motion with this style, it's time to move on, once again, to the jump.

REMEMBER: A shifty doesn't count till you get to 90deg.
                  The movement is MUCH easier to learn on the ground before taking it to the air.
                  It's MUCH harder than it looks if you want to do it properly, with control and with style.
                  It's the basis of aerial counter-rotation control that'll allow you to move onto BIG rotations and, as such,                   should be learned properly if you want to get better faster.

Oh, and have fun.


[Edited by Ben_S on 05/12/2006 at 14:11]

sultan_01

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Posted on Dec 05, 2006

the best way to get better i found was to snowboard with better people. i found i got a shit load better when i ride wiht all the guys with full sponsoships because you try bigger stuff.0
Keep it gangsta. Erday.


goldfeesh2

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Posted on Dec 05, 2006

Posted by roadrunner1659
cool thanks! anything else i can practice at home without snow in my basement haha or are these about it...

 
 
yea man, somethin thats fun to mess around wit is once you've gotten used to ollies, use somethin stable but low to the ground like an old couch to practice hoppin up onto. helps you get the feel of controlling you ollies and balance onto boxes. it gets ur leg muslces used to ollies up onto and down off boxes.

goldfeesh2

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Posted on Dec 05, 2006

srry for the double post, but can someone explain spins?  im fine wit the numbers of rotations an stuff, but whats the difference between frontside, backside, cab, switch...?

me_ze_boarde...

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Posted on Dec 09, 2006

Do like 180s grabs just 50-50ing small rails a cool grab trick is Canadian Bacon
The rear hand reaches behind the rear leg to grab the toe edge between the bindings while the rear leg is boned.


CommandoLando

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Posted on Dec 10, 2006

Posted by goldfeesh2
srry for the double post, but can someone explain spins?  im fine wit the numbers of rotations an stuff, but whats the difference between frontside, backside, cab, switch...?

The difference between frontside and backside is whether the frontside of your body is facing uphill for the first 90 degrees or if the backside of your body is facing uphill the first 90 degrees and switch is when you land a trick the opposite way that you normally ride

boarderaholic
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Posted on Dec 10, 2006

Posted by CommandoLando
Posted by goldfeesh2
srry for the double post, but can someone explain spins?  im fine wit the numbers of rotations an stuff, but whats the difference between frontside, backside, cab, switch...?

The difference between frontside and backside is whether the frontside of your body is facing uphill for the first 90 degrees or if the backside of your body is facing uphill the first 90 degrees and switch is when you land a trick the opposite way that you normally ride
He means spins, not jibbing. Frontside/backside refers to which direction your body is spinning. If you are spinning INTO your lead food, it's frontside, and vice versa for backside. The numbers, 1, 3, 5, etc etc refers to the degree's of the rotation. So a frontside 1 is a spin into your lead foot that is 180 degrees. Make sense?
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goldfeesh2

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Posted on Dec 10, 2006

yeah i got that, but i still dont get what cab is

mikeythesupe...

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Posted on Dec 12, 2006

Posted by roadrunner1659
Hey everyone!
 
Well, now that the season is finally opproaching...haha...i was wondering what are some good beginner tricks and jumps?
 
Im not a beginner when it comes to boarding, i would put myself at an intermediate level, but whenever i go riding, i generally stick to the mountian and the trails rather then going into the park because i dont really know were to being.  Over the summer i picked up my first complete snowboard package (never have to rent again) so im getting myself a season pass and i want to spend some time in the park after i get use to my new board.
 
...just wondering, does the board really make a difference between park and all mountain...i was told that i got a good all mountain board...so will i be able to use it in the park? Palmer Classic is my board.
 
Thanks!
 
Your board won't make much difference as long as it's not way too big or way too small.  You should see the beast I learned on.  You can pratice standing still if you want, with grabs, but you'll thank yourself later if you learn everything the first time at higher speeds.  Learing at higher speeds will give you wicked balance and help you learn way faster.  Don't hit the big parks yet.  Hit small jib parks and trail hits.  The best advice you can get is to find someone better than you, and copy the jumps they hit and tricks they do.  They will come of like crap at first, but just watch...
Don't ask me to choose between you and my board...


Ben_S

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Posted on Dec 12, 2006

Posted by goldfeesh2
yeah i got that, but i still dont get what cab is


Cab is entering a trick switch and using the switch nose heelside corner to pivot. This allows you to flick the board round a lot faster. A lot of people say that cab is any frontside rotation from switch but officially it has to be launched off the heelside corner. Half-cab is a 180 launched from the switch front heelside corner spinning frontside, cab-3 is a 360 launched from teh switch front heelside corner spinning frontside...etc.

goldfeesh2

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Posted on Dec 12, 2006

gotcha, cool

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