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jonathan_k "Gnar Gnar Shredder" Posts : 800 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 16, 2009 Hey guys, what's shakin'? I'm on the market for some new pants, Gore-Tex one's to be exact. Any suggestions as to what brands/models to look at, besides the big B, which is quite expensive? Now I don't mind paying the big bucks for the quality, but I'd like some more options. Thanks Jon
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shred35 "Scandalous Addicted Sexyman" Posts : 7286 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 22, 2009 Hey Jon; long time since we've chatted... Anyways, check out what Sessions, Bonfire, O'Neill or Helly Hansen (or brand of your choice) are doing. Sometimes, it's not so much about the waterproof/breathable membrane (Gore Tex, Helly Tech, etc...), but the actual outer fabric construction. A nylon outerwear pant, that may have a Gore Tex membrane (eg; 10,000mm/10,000gm/24hr rating), may actually not be as water/snow-proof, as a herringbone weave, that has a similar membrane, but may only be 8,000mm/8,000gm/24hr rated, as nylon will saturate a lot quicker than a fiber weave will. Different outer fabrics will suit different snow conditions, so do your homework, & decide if you need a coupla sets of pants, or just one. Also, there's different levels of Gore Tex, as well, so the price of the pants, will also determine the quality of the fabric & waterproof membrane, & the hydrostatic rating. Also make sure the pants are at least critically seam-sealed.
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lonerider Posts : 1306 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 22, 2009 As someone else mentioned... Bonfire and Helly Hansen make great gear... Sessions, Special Blend make decent stuff, but it's not quite as good. Arcteryx makes the some best stuff overall in opinion. Like shred mentioned, it's not just the waterproof membrane that's important... it's the stitching they use, the taped seams (doubled taped seams are better than critically taped seams), and even the zippers they uses... Arcteryx uses really good stuff... and so it's pretty expensive. For pants I've owned several Bonfire, Sessions, and Burton pants.

hikingwithdogs Posts : 125 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 27, 2009 In my backpacking\snowboarding experience Gotex and eVent are the only true water proof systems, I prefer eVent because it breathes better and is generally cheaper\lighter. Arcteryx, Marmot and Mountain Hardware all make ultra high end backcountry gear, Generally the gear from snowboard centric manufactures is pretty shoddy in quality in comparison to the above backcountry gear, this includes Burton, DC, ect I've walked\shoed for several days in pouring rain\wet snow in gortex\event and stayed 100% dry and warm while others wearing ski\board gear were soaked and miserable after the first day.
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powder_rider111 Posts : 485 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 27, 2009 Whatever you do don't get Burton pants with Gore-tex. I got some last year because they were on sale and they held up very badly. The Gore-tex was very good and I was never anywhere close to getting wet but the material it was made out of might as well have been paper. By the end of the season the bottoms of the legs were completely torn up and one of the zippers fell off at the bottom. I even got a tear around the knee because I brought up my board to snow off it and I brought it down on my leg by accident it went through it like butter. And off topic from what I was saying, does anybody know if Gore-tex is stain proof? Because I fell in a little bit of mud in them and then a little bit later in the day and trying to wipe the mud off you couldn't even tell I had.
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shredtherad Posts : 908 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 28, 2009 ^if you ride a lot and your pants are too long, anything is going to tear at the bottom. If that's a concern, look for something with reinforced cuffs.

lonerider Posts : 1306 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 28, 2009 Gore-Tex is a laminate on the inside the outside material is typical some type of DWR treated nylon... but that isn't "gore-tex" material. It is relatively stain-resistant, but over time it will get clogged up with dirt/sweat and you should washed it regularly according to the jacket/pants label (every 2-3 days of wear is ideal - although I don't do that either) otherwise all the dirt/sweat gets coated and it doesn't breathe as well (meaning your own body moisture can't escape - leaving your clammy and sweaty).

powder_rider111 Posts : 485 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 29, 2009 Posted by lonerider It is relatively stain-resistant, but over time it will get clogged up with dirt/sweat and you should washed it regularly according to the jacket/pants label (every 2-3 days of wear is ideal - although I don't do that either) otherwise all the dirt/sweat gets coated and it doesn't breathe as well (meaning your own body moisture can't escape - leaving your clammy and sweaty). Jeez, that makes it sound to me like gore-tex isn't even worth it. I'd rather just have something that's around 20k waterproofing/breathability than having to clean my pants every couple of days.
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lonerider Posts : 1306 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 29, 2009 Posted by powder_rider111 Posted by lonerider It is relatively stain-resistant, but over time it will get clogged up with dirt/sweat and you should washed it regularly according to the jacket/pants label (every 2-3 days of wear is ideal - although I don't do that either) otherwise all the dirt/sweat gets coated and it doesn't breathe as well (meaning your own body moisture can't escape - leaving your clammy and sweaty). Jeez, that makes it sound to me like gore-tex isn't even worth it. I'd rather just have something that's around 20k waterproofing/breathability than having to clean my pants every couple of days. Well you "suppose" to clean anything every couple of days of use (you do wash your underwear, right? ). I typically only wash my goretex gear after 10-15 days of use... some people don't wash it for years. The real benefit of goretex over other waterproof membranes is that is it relatively breathable while providing good waterproofness... this is less important in winter sports because it's cold and you don't noticesweat/humidity build up as much. Goretex is waterproof (more than 20k/20k), but as I mentioned often the water comes in through the seams and zipper if it's a cheaply made goretex jacket (relatively cheap... still a few hundred).

powder_rider111 Posts : 485 ONLINE	Posted on Oct 30, 2009 Posted by lonerider you do wash your underwear, right? Um, no, why would I do that...?
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