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KakaFace

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Posted on Oct 12, 2009

Hey guys,

I'm looking to get new boots after a few years of riding the Burton Shaun Whites.  They have done me well, never had a complaint, but they are near the end of their life.  I find they are a little on the soft side and for my next pair was wanting to go a little stiffer than that.  they are rated a 6 out of 10 on Burtons scale, but I'm not too concerned about what company makes the boot I'm looking for, as long as it is a solid boot.  I do some park, but mostly just ride the mountain, no rails, only jumps.  I was looking at a few examples:

vans andreas wiig
dc journey
salomon f22
k2 t1
dc status
burton ion

let me know what you guys have as suggestions.

I will be riding these boots with a lib tech TRS and Rome 390 bindings.  I get some good flex from the bindings, but with soft boots, I feel like it takes away some response.

thanks

davedinuzzo

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Posted on Oct 13, 2009

All those boots sounds like solid choices as long as they fit your foot. I personally have ridden both the Ion and the T1 and have loved them both. Currently on the T1 and I'm sticking with them because the heel hold is great and they ride very well
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lonerider

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Posted on Oct 13, 2009

Posted by KakaFace
Hey guys,

I'm looking to get new boots after a few years of riding the Burton Shaun Whites.  They have done me well, never had a complaint, but they are near the end of their life.  I find they are a little on the soft side and for my next pair was wanting to go a little stiffer than that.  they are rated a 6 out of 10 on Burtons scale, but I'm not too concerned about what company makes the boot I'm looking for, as long as it is a solid boot.  I do some park, but mostly just ride the mountain, no rails, only jumps.  I was looking at a few examples:

vans andreas wiig
dc journey
salomon f22
k2 t1
dc status
burton ion

let me know what you guys have as suggestions.

I will be riding these boots with a lib tech TRS and Rome 390 bindings.  I get some good flex from the bindings, but with soft boots, I feel like it takes away some response.

thanks
Based on what you wrote I think you are on the right track. The Burton Shaun Whites are a pretty soft boot in my opinion all though I've only tried the the 2008 and the 2009 models  (sounds like you have an old one). The Salomon F22, Burton Ion, and K2 T1 are all good stiff booters... but it really depends on how they fit your feet when you put them on and really bend your knees into them.

Personally I have wicked narrow ankles and so while the Salomon "almost" fit, I used to get heel lift once they broke in... since you like the Shaun Whites fit, I would suggest the Burton Ion (since boots in a brand tend to fit similarly).

Personally I like Nitro Boots (K2's aren't bad... but still little wide in the heel for me).

KakaFace

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Posted on Oct 14, 2009



Personally I like Nitro Boots (K2's aren't bad... but still little wide in the heel for me).

I haven't considered Nitro yet.  My girlfriend has nitro bots with the TLS lacing and after 10 days of riding the lace is hanging on by a thread.  it will surely snap, and Nitro has been no help in replacing it.  they dont even get back to me, so i'm not liking their customer service and dependability of their product.  if you can tell me what model boot from them is in the category i'm looking at, i'll check it out.

what about thirty-two?  they must have a high-end, fairly stiff boot, no? 

lonerider

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Posted on Oct 14, 2009

Posted by KakaFace


Personally I like Nitro Boots (K2's aren't bad... but still little wide in the heel for me).

I haven't considered Nitro yet.  My girlfriend has nitro bots with the TLS lacing and after 10 days of riding the lace is hanging on by a thread.  it will surely snap, and Nitro has been no help in replacing it.  they dont even get back to me, so i'm not liking their customer service and dependability of their product.  if you can tell me what model boot from them is in the category i'm looking at, i'll check it out.

what about thirty-two?  they must have a high-end, fairly stiff boot, no? 
Unless they've changed a lot in the last couples of years, Thirty Two does not have any high-end stiff boots on the same level as Burton, Salomon or Nitro. I rode the 2005 ThirtyTwo Forecast which ThirtyTwo describes as "the stiffest boot in the ThirtyTwo line" which was a 10 out of 10 in the 32 stiffness rating, but I actually would rate it as a 6 out of 10 in stiffness, and broke down really fast into like a mushy 4 that didn't hold my ankle down well. My Nitro Teams were like a 7 out of 10 starting out and maybe softening to a 5 after a lot of use. The Nitro Anthems is their softer model and is like a solid 4 out of the box (I only tried them on at the demo shop). The Darkseids are like a 8.5 out of 10 (a little stiff, but better after breaking in). Salmon F22 are like 6.5 out of 10 and Salomon Malamutes are 10 out of 10 (the pair I rode in 2006 were really, really stiff).

Of course, I felt like the 2008 and 2009 Shaun Whites were like a 3 stiffness out of the box... so a pair of Forecasts would still be a bit stiffer than what you have now. I'm not a huge fan of traditional lacing either (more on that later)... so made the 32 Focus Boa (32 lists as 8 out of 10, I'm guessing that means it's like a 5 out of 10 in real life). However, not to rag on ThirtyTwo too much... but while they are super light, I don't think they are very durable. They liners are not very well-shaped either (do you have wide/big feet? or narrow/skinny ankles?) andthere is only so much a heat molded Intuition liner can do to conform do your foot.

Hmmm... I found the TLS system to be finicky, but usable, but if the TLS lacing frayed as much as you say it does, I too would be hesitant to go with Nitro. I now always purchase through Backcountry.com, which like REI has great customer service (i.e. if you product breaks or anything... you can return it for a full refund, minus shipping - that's what I did with my first pair of Nitro Team TLS), but better prices. I checked and they are allowed to sell Nitro products in Canada (unlike Burton, K2, Ride, Salomon, Vans, etc ). 

Let me know what type of foot you have... if you prefer traditional to quick-pull lacing systems... if you have heel-lift or foot pain issues... or if you don't understand some things I said.

legallyillegal

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Posted on Oct 14, 2009

Posted by KakaFace

I haven't considered Nitro yet.  My girlfriend has nitro bots with the TLS lacing and after 10 days of riding the lace is hanging on by a thread.  it will surely snap, and Nitro has been no help in replacing it.  they dont even get back to me, so i'm not liking their customer service and dependability of their product.  if you can tell me what model boot from them is in the category i'm looking at, i'll check it out.

what about thirty-two?  they must have a high-end, fairly stiff boot, no? 

contact nitro canada/NRB sports (info AT nitrocanada.com)
514 745 2002

i've never gotten a reply from the US contacts


[Edited by legallyillegal on 10/14/2009 at 3:04 PM]
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rvoss1

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Posted on Oct 21, 2009

Go try on a pair of KS T1's.  I love the inner lace boa, and they are a very good, comfortable stiff boot.  I absolutely love mine.
 
If they fit your foot, I highly recommend them!

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