Lakia, you're so full of shit it's incredible. Nowhere have I ever said agnostics and atheists are better, that's your own insecurities screaming out. I didn't say I was more enlightened or intelligent. I said I don't like the quote. Politics and religion don't belong together. That quote told the dude to re-read the bible... for what, so he can be a good Christian so he can make better decisions when considering what laws to make? Religion has NO place when making laws or teaching kids. You want to teach religion, do it on YOUR time and YOUR dollar, not mine. I don't like the fact that Obama had to ASSURE people he was a good Christian. That's bullshit.
I dont like the fact that you are the close minded one after how i read all these things about being educated and enlightened all of you liberals are. Youre shut off to everything that you do not agree with that you demonize it and use it as a justification to tear down someones beliefs and make it seem as though they are unfit to lead because they believe in god. You ask me......thats pretty damn bigoted, arrogant, and self righteous. Kind of what people like you claim them to be because they pray.
You're saying that someone using religion to derive their morals doesn't harm me. And you're correct. However, someone using morals derived from religion to make laws DOES harm and effect me.
OH, and Lakia, your stupid ass 10 commandments... your morals you need the fear of God to follow. I follow those morals without the fear of burning in hell. I don't need a bible, I don't need prayer, I don't need a savior. I'm that way on my own, WITHOUT that shit. So who's the better, more moral person. The one who does it out of fear, or does it out of the goodness of their being. That's exactly why I hate religious zealots. Go pray around a flag pole in Spokane and keep your bible shit out of politics.
Funny..............im not a christian, but im also not as arrogant as you to think because i renounced religion that im better and more enlightened and more educated and more fit to lead and make policy because of it. My point is i dont give a damn where your morals come from so long as you are a good person. And you shouldnt give a damn either.
You have the freedom OF religion, anyone you want, even the religion of "ME" as you are so apparently devout to. But you do not have freedom FROM it. And if something helps someone be a better more moral person, you shouldnt have an issue with that.
You want equality? Start acting and stop preaching you charlatan. DO AS I SAY. NOT AS I DO. Its what is to be expected from both dems and reps. You want to be an american that gives a damn and wants this country to start going in better directions. Fuck liberalism, fuck conservatism, fuck democrats and republicans, start leading by example, and lead by the constitution, not some twisted agenda from some party.
Stupid ass 10 commandments......yeah..... things like not murdering, stealing, being true to your wife, those things.....pretty stupid. But im sure someone with great morals such as yours even though you dont fear a supernatural being doesnt want anything to do with such beliefs as that because they came from an old book.
Then again im sure youre for the ACLU, an organization who makes sure that court houses in alabama take those stupid 10 commandments down from in front of them, like dont murder or steal. Yet the ACLU defended NAMBLA when a civil case came up when 2 men raped and murdered a 10 year old boy in Cambridge named Jeffery Curley. One of the men found material advocating such actions on the NAMBLA website when he visited the NAMBLA website on a computer at a public library. AND somehow this seemingly indefensible and horrible crime promoted by NAMBLA was defended free of charge by the ACLU.
Does that sound like a Civil Liberty? The right to rape and murder young children? These are same people who wanted a religious document saying THOU SHALL NOT MURDER taken down from in front of a court house, people like YOU because its a religious document, and god forbid a christian one. Do you see a problem there? Or is it ok for such things to be promoted and defended because it didnt come from the bible? If you think that your moral compass is so fucked up you have no room to say a damn word about morals and what makes yours better.
Are your morals really better because you dont believe in god even though from what YOU said they coincide with people who do? Thats pretty ignorant, hypocritical, and damn self righteous there friend. I expected you to have more character.
[Edited by lakia on 3/13/2009 at 5:38 PM]