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meanie

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Posted on Feb 28, 2009

so for the 2nd time, i have an employer that wants to give me one of these. a few years back, when i was faced with this situation i had no choice but to make up some bs excuse and leave the job i was at. the thing is, i'm legit this time. i quit smoking when i moved out to san diego so that i would be able to find a job. i should be able to pass a urine, no problem. my question is, do they consider it a failure even if my hair shows i've been clean for the last couple of mos? i have long hair so shaving my head is not an option.

SpecialKallt...
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Posted on Feb 28, 2009

just go for it, worst thing that will happen is you is you'll get fired and need to find another job.  It's not like you are posted up on a database and now blacklisted from every other job.  They can't even get you arrested either.  Do it and see what they come up with, if they fail you be up front with them and say "yes I smoked weed in the past, but I have turned my life around and don't do that silly stuff anymore"  What type of job is it? 
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SteveDUH
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Posted on Mar 01, 2009

the day i get a drug test for a job is the day i start looking for a new job... even if it comes up negative.
If work is ruining your free time.... fucka that job

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tooscoops
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Posted on Mar 03, 2009

complete agreement with the boys... its-a-bullshit....
 
if the job is good enough that you would do the drug test, do it and hope.  if the job is crap... tell em, 'i don't need to write no test to tell you i do drugs' and fuck off.
 
what are your other choices?... show up on a monday with a shaved head?  that wouldn't look guilty.
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meanie

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Posted on Mar 04, 2009

haha yea, i was a heavy smoker up until a few mos ago so i know it would def show up but i was just wondering what the policy was regarding how recently i smoked for it to be considered a failure or is it a failure if it shows up at all (doesn't seem fair since most guys hairs would have grown out by now).
 
specialk, it was for a loan assistant position for a mortgage company. and the first time, it was for a legal assistant position for a financial company. both times, i was temping and they wanted to offer me a perm position. anyways, i decided to turn the offer down so now i'm back on the job hunt. i applied for a position at an "alternative care" clinic (medical marijuana), how cool would that be if i got it? haha wish me luck!

SteveDUH
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Posted on Mar 05, 2009

THC stays in your system for about 3 months
if you've been clean for a few months like you say, you should be fine.  
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m_jel

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Posted on Mar 05, 2009

system referring to blood or system referring to urine?  Either way i should probably stop now if i've already applied for firefighting  ha
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iDShaDoW

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Posted on Mar 07, 2009

Posted by m_jel
system referring to blood or system referring to urine?  Either way i should probably stop now if i've already applied for firefighting  ha


Urine.  THC can stay in the fat deposits in your body for longer amounts of time based on body composition.

As for hair, don't really know about that, it'd probably stay in your hair til it grows out and you cut it off.  If it's a big deal to the OP, you should just start trimming the ends of it off like an inch and let it grow out and repeat.

Lots of jobs in my area (Fairfax, VA) seem to be drug testing now.  My friend wanted to work at Lifetime Fitness and they wanted to do a drug and background check on him.

CptShenanigans

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Posted on Mar 10, 2009

they make shampoo that you can use before the test. I've never used it, but I have used the Detox you drink and that works. Here is a link, but I would just go to a Waterbed's and Stuff or a smoke shop, they usually have that stuff.

http://www.testclear.com/Pass-Hair-Drug-Test-C2.aspx
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mosh.n.ride

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Posted on Mar 10, 2009

Gosh, are they doing these tests in Canada? If so, I need to "prepare" myself before moving over there!
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krylonis

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Posted on Mar 10, 2009

Posted by SteveDUH
the day i get a drug test for a job is the day i start looking for a new job... even if it comes up negative.
If work is ruining your free time.... fucka that job



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iDShaDoW

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Posted on Mar 15, 2009

Posted by CptShenanigans
they make shampoo that you can use before the test. I've never used it, but I have used the Detox you drink and that works. Here is a link, but I would just go to a Waterbed's and Stuff or a smoke shop, they usually have that stuff.

http://www.testclear.com/Pass-Hair-Drug-Test-C2.aspx


The Detox stuff is something you drink like 30mins to an hour before the piss test?  That stuff makes your piss like neon yellow.  If they gave a damn they can tell you've been drinking something to beat the test.

Being female, I think she might care about her hair and I think that shampoo stuff will screw it up cause it strips the stuff off your hair and can probably really mess it up.

meanie

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Posted on Mar 15, 2009

yea i have one of those omni cleansers but i can actually beat the urine test without anything. i heard those shampoos don't really work so i don't really want to chance it. last time i smoked was for new year's eve so it hasn't quite been 3 mos yet. the same company keeps calling me and offering me higher paying positions, but damn even if i wanted to accept i can't T.T

iDShaDoW

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Posted on Mar 17, 2009

They don't have a home hair-test kit like they do for the urine test do they?

atomicsnowqueen
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Posted on Mar 19, 2009

Posted by meanie
yea i have one of those omni cleansers but i can actually beat the urine test without anything. i heard those shampoos don't really work so i don't really want to chance it. last time i smoked was for new year's eve so it hasn't quite been 3 mos yet. the same company keeps calling me and offering me higher paying positions, but damn even if i wanted to accept i can't T.T


1. They don't usually do the hair ones in Canada - woohoo!
2. Even if you haven't done weed yourself in the last 3 months, if you've been at parties or around people that hvae, it'll show up in your urine up to a month+ later.
3. Why not chance it anyways? What's the worst they can say? "We can't give you the job because drugs showed up in your hair".. you're not at a loss. You turn it down or they don't give it to you.. you're in the same position.

I say just GO FOR IT and take the job and the test. Try to explain yourself if they find anything by saying you quit (they'll be able to tell how long ago it was anyway), and if they choose not to give you a job then you go and find another one. No biggy.
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meanie

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Posted on Mar 19, 2009

well i temped for these guys for 2 mos so i still want to be able to use them as a reference. at least this way, i can say i turned the position down as opposed to getting rejected for failing a drug test. not to mention, i don't want them chopping off my hair if i know i'm going to fail anyways. it is unlikely to fail a urine from 2nd hand, btw.

iDShaDoW

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Posted on Mar 20, 2009

Yup, you'd have to be hotboxing a small bathroom with each person with a fat blunt in each hand or something to have enough in your system to show up I would think.

Transcendence84

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Posted on Jul 14, 2009

Just go for it and hope for the best. As some others have said, the worst thing they can do is say no....

I can say first hand that sometimes things just work out. I was looking to get a real job some time ago, and figured i would be tested so got one of the fake urine deals. Thinking i was in the clear i continued to go about my normal business. One day while at the job i got a small heads up it would be a hair test. My stomach dropped. I went out and bought one of the shampoo's, but considering it had only been a couple weeks since i smoked that shit totally DID NOT work. However it was very effective at getting the skin to peal off of my hands.... Not saying the stuff doesnt work at all, but from my experience it does not work with any recent activity. Week or so later i got a call from the doc telling me i tested positive. Figuring it was the right thing to do i called my employer and set up a meeting to discuss the results, explained to them "it was something of the past and they wouldnt have to worry about it in the future." Part of it was the way i handled the situation, part of it was sweet performance i was already giving them, but they let me keep my job. So you never know, sometimes shit just works out. So being that i can expect another test at any given time i dont smoke anymore, and it sucks.....badly, but in the grand scheme of things it is a small price to pay for salary, 401k, insurance, and a serious career opportunity. At least drinking is still legal......

Some things to keep in mind:

1. Sorry SnowQueen but you dont have a clue. No way you are going to test positive from second hand unless you were in an ungodly situation like what iDShaDoW was saying... However the hair tests are really rare because they are expensive, you are right about that.

2. THC is stored in your fat cells. This means someone shall we say "husky" is going to have a harder time cleaning out that someone who is a bean pole.

3. Its all relative to usage. If you smoke everyday it is going to take 4-6 weeks to get it out of your system for a urine test. I have heard significantly longer than 3 months for the hair, but i truely dont know. If you only smoke once in a blue moon it could be out of your system in a week or two for urine, and probably 3 months...maybe a little less (but dont hold me to it) for hair.



Its all just a matter of how you want to go about it.... 

[Edited by Transcendence84 on 7/14/2009 at 12:52 PM]

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