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Unbearable Foot Pain - never heard of anyone else getting this

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Mtxz453

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Posted on Jan 18, 2009

I've been snowboarding for about 6 or 7 years now and have had the same boots bindings and board, which i love. The boots fit great and feel fine walking, no pain whatsoever, they are northwaves. However, for some odd reason when I ride, after a couple minutes of riding I start getting unbearable foot pain in both feet, kind of like someone is putting my feet in a vice and clamping down on them. I get pain on both heel side and toe side, more towards toe side.. the pain is throbbing and is mostly under the middle of my feet and on top. It gets so bad that I have to most of the time stop on the trail and wait 5 minutes for the pain to go down and my feet feel fine. As soon as i get off the trail i need to unstrap and even though my feet aren't in the bindings the pain is radiating and almost a little worse for another 15 minutes. I have tried new, stiffer, more expensive, ride boots and they made the problem 10 times worse. I have custom foot beds and I don't really think they made to much of a different. If this helps, I was up at Tremblant last winter and tried to endure the pain and just ignore it.. well turned out I strained my achilis somehow. The pain was really bad up there since the trails were so long and it was to cold to stop and sit.
 
All the last seasons I was able to put up with it, but it really makes my snowboarding day miserable and this season I can't go on riding with this pain. Has anyone heard of this or had this problem? Anyone have suggestions as to where I can start to solve this problem? Like I said my equipment is a little old but I love it.
 
I have Ride bindings and a Ride prophet 159. Little short for me now but still love the board. The board isn't as wide so my boots hang off either about half an inch, idk if that makes a difference. I tried borrowing another board that was much wider, made the problem worse. Any help is much appreciated.

JoonHo

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Posted on Jan 18, 2009

i had the exact same problem with the pain, location, and intensity of it...

my problem was that i was wayyy over tightening on BOA (i have the 09 K2 T1 DBs) ... once i figured this out and made my boots much looser when i was riding, most of the problems went away (along with some of the responsiveness, but it's a give and take thing)...

so maybe you're overtightening your boots?


burrows540

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Posted on Jan 18, 2009

you might also be over tightening your bindings... try taking it down a few clicks...

lonerider

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Posted on Jan 18, 2009

How long have you had your boots... the whole 6-7 years... it's likely that they are packing out and getting loose and you are over-tightening the lower laces too much to compensate... the pain will only start happening after a while as the pressure gets to your feet and as you flex the boot a lot.

I'm 99% sure you need new boots... it sounds like you only tried 1 pair of boots... you need to try on a lot more pairs of boots and you need to fine one that fits your foot such that you can tight the laces "snug" without cranking down on them (which I'm guessing you did) to keep your heels from lifting. I recommend trying boots that allow you to tighten the upper and lower laces separately (several brand have boots like that - Nitro, Salomon, Burton, Ride, Focus Boa, etc...).

What type of custom footbeds do you have, btw?


Mtxz453

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Posted on Jan 18, 2009

Thanks for the responces guys. I never thought of lossening my boots I will try that next time. I have loosened my bindings pretty much as loose as i can ride them it it definetly helps but I still get the crazy pain. I will try loosening my boots next time to see what that does. I will go try on boots this week, but what sucks is that with like my boots I can walk for miles and sit in them all day and they will feel comfortable as hell, its not till I get on the trail will I know if a new boot will pass the test. The custom footbeds were some 50 dollar things that i put in the microwave then stood in for 20 minutes. Any suggestions on what boots I should try?

lonerider

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Posted on Jan 18, 2009

In general... all custom footbeds require an experience bootfitter to make and cost over $100... a do it yourself might be a little better than the stock footbed, but not as good as a "true custom" footbed.

Also... try buying from REI or backcountry.com... you can still return the boots even if you ride them on the mountain.

snurfer

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Posted on Jan 18, 2009

I have that top of foot pain only on my front foot...and usually only after a few hours of constant riding (I eat lunch on the lift: energy bars and camelback water).

It actually started when I put new insoles in - they cleared up my heel lift but the arches in them pushed the middle of my foot hard up against the tongue of the boot.

When it starts hurting, walking around a little every once in a while helps me a lot
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jkiddfn1821

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Posted on Jan 23, 2009

Posted by snurfer
I have that top of foot pain only on my front foot...and usually only after a few hours of constant riding (I eat lunch on the lift: energy bars and camelback water).

It actually started when I put new insoles in - they cleared up my heel lift but the arches in them pushed the middle of my foot hard up against the tongue of the boot.

When it starts hurting, walking around a little every once in a while helps me a lot


I don't know if you are looking for a better solution or not, snurfer, but you could possibly try a pair of blue superfeet, they have a lower arch than their other models, and they take up less space in the boot which could give you more room in the tongue area.

snurfer

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Posted on Jan 24, 2009

interesting you should say that, because I am using superfeet blue. 

I did, however, try the green before this and they made they made the boots feel brand new, but really made the top s of my feet hurt bad all day.  The blues are a good compromise...I'm going to keep riding these boots for a while.
Trust in TBT


scr1be

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Posted on Feb 02, 2009

to the OP,

give superfeet a try.


i've tried superfeet oranges and they helped 80% of my problems.   i thought maybe i would continue trying others and i just tried A-Lines and they made my foot hurt even more. 

I'm back to orange superfeet now.


I think i'm going to try the other colors of superfeet to see if i can find the perfect footbed.


So, maybe your custom footbed wasn't the right one, like the A-Lines that I bought for twice as much as the superfeet.   






natesemipro

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Posted on Feb 02, 2009

I have been riding for over 16 years and until 3 years ago I have had zero problems with my feet... 
   But, now I have tried 5 brand new pairs of boots in the last 3 months and I still am having issues. I have made an appointment to see the Doc. I have custom footbeds cost me $220 bucks. I am not sure what the problem is with my feet. I have the EXACT same issues!
    I have honeslty tried everything I can think of... And nothing will help. I even put a roll of dimes under my feet inside of my boot and tried that...  Yeah call me stupid.. But, if you were going through what I am you would try anything! I put 220 days on my last pair of boots last year. Between hood and winter riding they have had a lot of use!The 32 ultralights have held up nicely! but had issues at the same time.
   
   The boots I have tried were the following: 32 Ultralights, Burton Shaun whites, 32 boa, Soloman F series and Now I am on the DC Judge...
The judge so far has been the best comfort but I still have the issues with my feet. I can do one run at full speed hitting every feature in the park... but I cannot do the second full run.. I will have to stop every run, and walk around for a few min. before I can ride again. and after the first run... I can't feel my board the same after the first run.
   Life just isn't the same anymore!!!!
I know everyone has different feet and everything. but seriously.... I need to get this fixed! Doc appointment isnt for a few weeks. but, I will let you know how my feet end up after all of my searching for new boots, and my foot issues!
 
On another note... I ski sometimes also... my ski boots have ZERO issues on my feet. but I hate skiing everyday. I am a full time snowboard coach and I suck at skiing. but never had issues on skis... weird huh?
 
Let me know if you get anything figured out bro! and good luck!
Nate
 

bluesurf

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Posted on Feb 09, 2009

I am going through this also.  I got so fed up i tried an old pair of hardboots and all problems sloved.  I can rail as hard as i want no issues.  Park pipe whatever.  I think we are expecting too much of our soft boot setups.  all my friends have the same issues as me but think i am crazy for trying the hard boots.  But after two days of riding and zero foot pain they are becoming believers.  I know i over tightened my bindings but that is the only way i have no slop.  good luck and experiment with uncnventional ideas you might be surprised.

murray_p

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Posted on Feb 09, 2009

custom footbeds are worth the cash you have to put out on them, i got them 10 years ago and i have had to get another pair since (every 5 years i get new ones) but it is a night and day difference, they have to be made for your feet and your boots...if you have health insurance you dont have to pay for most of it either. 

nickcee

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Posted on Feb 10, 2009

unrelated.. i had to same issue with hockey skates, and went with custom footbeds.. do yourself a favor and get some
 
good tip ^^^ on the health insurance as well

freeridecamo

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Posted on Aug 05, 2009

what your all experiencing is the arch of your foot collapsing, and so the muscles in your feet are trying to hold the whole weight of your body in an un-natural position and so the muscles are cramping which is the stabbing feeling that your getting in your feet! superfeet and other products like that can be a big help but unfortunately the best advice from someone who had the same problem and has worked in a ski boot shop for the last couple of seasons is you need custom footbeds.  i dont mean go to surefoot or somewhere similar and pay 1000 dollars for them find a shop which does thermo-molded custom footbeds and try some, they are expensive but they work everytime (unless you have seriously messed up feet) and you can finally spend a day riding without any pain....it really is amazing!!

livetasnowboard

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Posted on Aug 05, 2009

i think i know what your talking about. it kinda feels like all your toes are criss crossed?
gotta wax that sh*t!


lonerider

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Posted on Aug 05, 2009

Posted by livetasnowboard
i think i know what your talking about. it kinda feels like all your toes are criss crossed?
More like a vice is crushing the top of your foot... and a jagged metal spike digging into your arch tearing it apart.

I have sole support footbeds (I like them better than superfeet) and year ago I found tying my lower laces pretty loose, while keeping the upper laces tight (to keep my ankle down) got rid of the problem. Look for boots that have dual-zone lacing/tightening systems (a lot of brands have them now).

[Edited by lonerider on 8/5/2009 at 11:27 PM]

Mandingo15

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Posted on Aug 06, 2009

+1 to what that man said. I struggled with that same pain and switch to Salomon Dialogues and the custom orthodics. Pain has stopped. I went to ride my old setup once last season from when I was rocking the burton boots pain was back, they had regular lacing system. Point is reiterated. Get the multi zone lacing system. Dont over tighten the boots. One thing I didnt recall being mentioned when I skimmed this post. Not sure what you are doing for bindings, alls I know is that a toe cap, as opposed to the toe strapped made a world of difference.
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AlphaStatuz

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Posted on Aug 23, 2009

 I'll be entering my third season of boarding this year, and I have the same horrific problem.  I started off with a pair of DC Judges, and they were a bit oversized, so I never noticed much.  My first investment was in the Vans Cirros, which I ordered online.  They not only made my toe and arch area feel as though they were being crushed, they stabbed in right over the ankles of my feet.  I made a possibly inaccurate assumption that this was something specific to a fuckup with the boot.  Next, I went in and tried on the 2009 K2 T1s.  Walked around the store for about half an hour, stomping and running.  Felt great.  Got on the run for the first time last season, took off, got to the bottom, screaming pain.  If I ride completely loose, I find I'm all right, but I really only want to ride the the BOAs tightened down, and the bindings tightened all the way, and why shouldn't I?  I don't see how the binding can affect your foot beneath a quarter inch of solid hard rubber boot.  Anyway, I may try out the T1s again this year, but in a 10.5 (I presently ride in 10s).  Not sure, really...

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