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k_nisbett

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Posted on Feb 25, 2008

title says it all

burtonunincr...

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Posted on Feb 25, 2008

Use a camera with good quality picture
Keep as smooth as possible when filming
Know when to zoom and not to zoom
Find some decent video editing software, Adobe Premiere or Final Cut
Use good riders
Do a variety of terrain
Use original music

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christofski
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Posted on Feb 26, 2008

Whenever someone lands a trick make sure to scream "YAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BROOOO".
Make sure people always wear there goggles, even when doing a urban rail.
ALWAYS use a fisheye or wide angle, ALWAYS.
Using the newspaper transition is pretty much the only respectable way to start a video.
wait, dont do those...
 
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laura_jo

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Posted on Feb 26, 2008

and dont use any stupid "fancy" editing filters... keep it straight. use a song that fits the riding, then fit the clips to the song. get some fun friend shots, keep the sport REAL. have fun with it, do what the first kid said, i'm not going to repeat it, and don't do what the 2nd kid said.. haha  well... you could. but. people like watching a legit vid that looks like someone has a clue.. even if the riding isn't great you can hide it pretty well by doing a legit edit. also think about good camera angles.. those can help spice up a shot! not just straight up far away sideways blah shots. 
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cheshirefoxxx

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Posted on Feb 26, 2008

just don't rattle the camera or repeat similar shots endlessly, people have short attention spans these days.. what was the topic?? oh, and don't choose angles or exposures that make your film abstract viewing....

jimmy_22

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Posted on Feb 29, 2008

get yourselfg a decent tripod to avoid haking too much. not too much slow motion, like most begginer filmaers. use low agle shots t make tricks look bigger. experiment with different shots and editing techniques remember you're only begining, experiment to find what works and what doesnt-that was the best advice i ever received

astralboy15

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Posted on Mar 07, 2008

Posted by cheshirefoxxx
just don't... repeat similar shots endlessly, people have short attention spans these days..



you just described every mack dawg movie ever made

M-C

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Posted on Mar 23, 2008

Zoom is the worst feature you can use. Use it before you start filming, not while you are filming, unless of course you are filming a whole line, and in that case, make sure it is suuuper smooth zooming. nothing i cant stand more than when kids film me and zoom in on my when i drop in, and zoom out when im in the transition of the jump. Also, filming far away ALWAYS uses a tripod, no matter what. if your poor, make one. whoo cares, keep the camera STILL. Get a little bit creative with your angles. meaning dont film a box from right beside it. maybe from back corner and really low, or move yourself across the transition as the rider progresses along the box (just samples). And when your editing, keep things plain and simple, and dont leave 10seconds of run-in for a 1 second trick, and a 8 second ride-out. Remember, keep the fun in snowboarding while you film. There is no reason for friends to get mad at eachother because you plan on putting together a 5 minute video for the end of the season. I know that happens with my crew, so i just leave and ride myself for a bit, because thats not what snowboarding is, and a sure as hell hope its not where its headed.

Mowgli613

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Posted on Apr 06, 2008

1) Location, Location, Location: Don't film much in the park - it's not the 90s anymore, people don't want to see a video stuffed full of park parts. Anybody can camp out by a park jump and get shots. Either take it to the streets if you want urban riding, or take it to the back country if you want booters and natural features.
2) Forgo the cliches: The Whiskey films and Wildcats films have been done, so no need for a lot of shots of snowboarders being jackasses.
3) Get creative with the camera angles: mix it up and try different shit that's gonna enhance the riding instead of the stock sitting under a jump, follow-cam or straight on angles.
4) Let the riding do the talking: keep the parts diverse (don't fall into the FODT trap where every part has the same tricks on the same features) and try to mix it up with the tricks and so forth. Also, shots of your homies in their tall-ts shouting "yeeeeeeeeeahhhh bro" when you stomp a trick does not make the video better.
5) Keep the production simple: Unless you've got a budget like Mack Dawg, don't worry so much about fancy editing techniques, filters, transitions etc. Keep it simple, let the parts flow.
6) Match the music to the part: Why do people remember Tarantino's movies more than most? Because the soundtracks stand out. He is one of the wizards of Hollywood for matching the right song with the right scene in the movie. Learn a lesson from him. When picking the music for a part, either pick a song that matches well to the part or conversely, if you've chosen the song in advance, make the edits match the flow of the song. I loved Optimistic, but watching Gigi Ruf shred big mountain lines to Busta's I love my Bitch felt terribly out of place.
 
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chrisboarder17

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Posted on Apr 06, 2008

^^^^^^^^^^
i agree with everything he said except one thing- gigi rufs part and the song were awesome. i love my bitch is a kickass song to ride to, especially backcountry.
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burtonunincr...

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Posted on Apr 06, 2008

Posted by chrisboarder17
^^^^^^^^^^
i agree with everything he said except one thing- gigi rufs part and the song were awesome. i love my bitch is a kickass song to ride to, especially backcountry.


Agreed.  Sometimes its good to break away from the slow mystical or hard rock songs usually used in backcountry parts.
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locuaspow

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Posted on Apr 06, 2008

just feel the flow of tricks in ur lense in an estrategic position, mixed with party shots and good music.....
i've always loved to try same tricks on different angles, you improve ur trick repeatin' it and u have more variation of shots!....
colors and explosive editing techniques are always welcome by kids watching videos...

Mowgli613

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Posted on Apr 12, 2008

Posted by locuaspow
just feel the flow of tricks in ur lense in an estrategic position, mixed with party shots and good music.....
i've always loved to try same tricks on different angles, you improve ur trick repeatin' it and u have more variation of shots!....
colors and explosive editing techniques are always welcome by kids watching videos...

Party shots were cool 10 years ago, but they're played out. Snowboarding's evolved past the Whiskey Diaries and the Wildcats videos these days.
For a DIY video, pretty much do the opposite of what this guy said.

[Edited by Mowgli613 on 4/12/2008 at 11:18 AM]
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Mowgli613

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Posted on Apr 12, 2008

Posted by chrisboarder17
^^^^^^^^^^
i agree with everything he said except one thing- gigi rufs part and the song were awesome. i love my bitch is a kickass song to ride to, especially backcountry.

I'm not hating on Gig's part since he's one of my fav riders and the part kicked ass, nor am I hating on Busta Rhymes by any stretch (I've been following him and Flipmode Squad since the mid 90s) It's just the the flow of the part and the tune don't work. The tricks and the edits aren't really synched up well with the music.

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I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a six-four Impala


sidewayssnow

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Posted on Apr 12, 2008

for a camera i would start out with a minidv that probably is not super expensive, to see if you are really into filming.  What i would recommend is starting out with a panasonic gs320, and eventually moving up to either a sony vx2100 or a panasonic dvx.
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kanadia

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Posted on Apr 12, 2008

dude, if its just for a fun video for you and your friends, just film and edit in whatever you find funny or good for yourself.  party shots, riding the park, backcountry booters, urban, whatever you like, put in a video.  just go out and have fun filming and riding with your friends.

shredderchris32

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Posted on Apr 12, 2008

Hold the camera still. Be creative with the riding. Don't just put stock tricks in it on the same feature.  Watch a FODT movie and do the opposite for the most part.

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diamondsp

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Posted on May 20, 2008

Posted by locuaspow
just feel the flow of tricks in ur lense in an estrategic position, mixed with party shots and good music.....
colors and explosive editing techniques are always welcome by kids watching videos...
 
Have got to disagree there - 'colours and explosive editing techniques' drive me up the f**king wall. Nothing stampmarks a video as AMATEUR like the use of fekking plug-in edit gimmick wipe sh!t. Keep it straight. Watch ANY professionally produced piece of film or television, snowboarding-related or otherwise, and you will see a total absence of gimmicky 'explosive editing techniques'. This is not because professional editors don't know how to do it. It is because it looks sh!te.
 
One thing I'd say is that wrapping your camera in cling film works much, much better than I thought it would. I took a major bale in deep powder, and the camera was totally fine! Just use a sharp knife to cut through to your record and zoom buttons. And to clear the lens, obviously.
 
Pretty sweet thread this though - been starting out making a few vids of my own and picked up a couple of useful tips here. Gonna think about the angles a bit more than I have been. I am also wary that I'm falling into something of a trap of starting out with the 'comedy intro' where the journey to the resort is covered in a mildly humorous fashion, but then I don't necessarily think it always feels right to start straight into the boarding shots...

chrisboarder17

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Posted on May 20, 2008

i have a question about editing for my camera.

 

i have a canon DC100 and i love it. the only problem is that the mini dvd's it takes cant be edited on my laptop for some reason. is it just that i need to buy some new editing software, or that the laptop cant recognize the format of the minidvd's?

 

also, what in your opinion is the best editing software? im not talking like real expensive hi-tech equipment, just computer software.

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diamondsp

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Posted on May 20, 2008

I have heard nothing but bad reports about those dvd cameras, I'm sorry to say. As far as I know, their only benefit is for people who want to for exmaple shoot a holiday video and then be able to watch it on dvd, without having to first suck it into a computer, then burn a dvd etc. They have not been made to be edited from.
 
However, I worked out a workaround of my own for a different but similar problem. Do you have access to a mini-dv camera (your basic cheapo consumer camera)? If so, put the dvd from your canon into a dvd player, and plug the outputs from the dvd into your dv-cam camera. When you play your dvd, it should play out to your dv-cam camera (can't think just now if the camera has to be in play or record mode - too late at night! - but think it should be in play mode...). Now, what you want to do is record on your camera, let it roll for 10 seconds or so, and then press play on your dvd. This way you can transfer whatever footage you want onto dv-cam, which can then be used on any editing package.
 
Total pain in the arse I know. I suggest you have severe words with whichever c**t sold you this camera.
 
As for editing packages, iMovie (free with Macs) is really bad in a lot of ways but, if you have never edited before, it's good for getting to grips with the principles of editing and you can basically do all you need to do to make a nice, decent edit. It has extreme limitations though and is very frustrating for anyone with experience of any better software.
 
I edit on Avid, but Avid software costs BIG bucks, and tends to be well protected. If you are looking for a happy medium, I'd suggest Final Cut Pro - it's a cracking editing package and I wouldn't have a bad thing to say about it.

burtonunincr...

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Posted on May 20, 2008

hey chrisboader.  Adobe Premiere and After Affects CS3.  Pretty much no limits there.  I'm guessing you own a mac.
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oneboogieman1

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Posted on May 21, 2008

Posted by k_nisbett
title says it all
 
 10-12 hrs. is equal to like 6 secs of film time. It could also equal 0 seconds so dont forget to have a back-up plan if your major plans arent working out that day because its a long ride home knowing it was all for nothing.      

chrisboarder17

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Posted on May 21, 2008

actually i have nothing bad to say about it exept the editing thing. pictures crisp, sound is not bad for what i paid, features are awesome, and its pretty durable. also really easy to shoot with. i heard about this editing software, cant think of the name right now, but it starts with an "R" and is 90 bucks. i heard it does everything, and can even pull video off a -RW mini dvd. know anything about it?
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DARPH

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Posted on May 22, 2008

watch your white balance,
for on snow, make sure it's sunny or you have some form of contrast...
bring plastic bags for the camera, tripod and lens wipes....
try listening to the music you want for the spot WHILE filming...
check your composition before you press record, make sure you'll have the run in to out with little panning...
simple editing...no lame double diamond crossfade wipes....
try to get high frame per second so it looks ill when you slow it down....
and EXPERIMENT! but know when to reign it in, fuck around with focusing and angles...


tripoddog

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Posted on May 22, 2008

It's all about the star wipe transition! Nothing screams production value more than star wipes!
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