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wrathfuldeity

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Posted on Mar 07, 2008

killz,
 
Maybe its the YYZ canuck thing?

Killclimbz
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Posted on Mar 07, 2008

Hahaha, I don't think YYZ is a Special Olympics outfitter.  Looks like an alpine rider's store.  You know, hardboots, plate bindings etc.  I stopped by the authors pro, and can see where some of the hostility comes from, but I think it's mis-placed as I mentioned above.  It is his opinion and he's entitled to it.  To each his own...
If there is a more pointless place to argue than the web...
I don't know about it.


ult

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Posted on Mar 07, 2008

Posted by Killclimbz
Looks like an alpine rider's store.  You know, hardboots, plate bindings etc.

 
Wow. There's actually a store that survives selling that stuff?
Just took a look...interesting...and spendy.
Plus they don't sell Catek's...which is what I think I want to drift towards since the Bomber TD1's I've got have just let me down to often.
 
Come on Killz...why are you hating on the developmentally challenged? Dude...that's messed up...you're mean!

Killclimbz
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Posted on Mar 07, 2008

Wow, really Bomber has had problems?  A friend of mine own that company.  I had always heard the Cateks break a lot and that the Bomber was reliable.  I guess not everyone's experience is the same.
If there is a more pointless place to argue than the web...
I don't know about it.


ult

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Posted on Mar 07, 2008

They just haven't been that 'rock solid' for me. Got them and put them on a deck...they'd pop off/open if I landed a decent air...tried some more/differnt things but it would still happen and that made me loose confidence in them. I asked around a bit and was told I needed different bails/screws for my AT boots (wider I guess). Did that and I've still had them come off occasionally...although much less...and I'm not sure if it's a freak occurance or not (I HATE not being confident in them though) Then one of the screws came out the other day...which is probably just a maintenance thing...but still...I'm over the failures I've had with them. Throw in the heel bail on the back foot has a broken spring (which bomber I guess doesn't sell any more)...and it's a hassle to click in...and i LIKE being able to click in on the lift or at least very easily once off the lift...and it's been a pain. So I'm kind of over them at this point. 
I don't know squat about the catek's...but figured they looked comperable... 

GroverMonster

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Posted on Mar 28, 2008

You need to calm the fuck down snowcorey, you may not realize that you sound like an asshole.
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snowboardjeep

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Posted on May 01, 2008

Posted by GroverMonster
You need to calm the fuck down snowcorey, you may not realize that you sound like an asshole.

 
Corey - I don't think there was any 'disrespect' for the athlete's who compete in SO in Killz's statement, just saying you cant win an online argument - and if you do win an argument - Who really cares?  Oh so you got pwnd.  big deal.  Anybody keeping score?   But yes, using the 'retarded' is offensive to some - even though the route of the word is used in music by the conductor to tell the orchestra to "retard" or slow the meter/pace down.

Killz - here's a better statement to use, its on my profile words of wisdom - "Never argue with an idiot [on-line], it brings you down to there level and they will always beat you with their experience." - Anon

Besides, most people wouldn't have the courage to say the same things to your face as they do online (I am generalizing. I am not talking directly to you Corey about your post so please dont send your wraith towards me).  Most people don't have the mental capacity to change their minds or ideas if facts are presented that counter their opinions either.  Most just lash out and say "Fcuk you a$$ hole" and continue to call names or insult you personally, which has nothing to do with the topic at hand.  Sometimes the inet can be too confrontational for it's own good.

The great thing about the future is it always begins tomorrow.


Killclimbz
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Posted on May 01, 2008


Meh, snowcorey hasn't bothered to respond to this thread and he posted that weeks, if not months ago.  The "retarded" thing came from an internet picture I borrowed that I put on page one.  It's all over the place and I certainly did not create it. 

Internet arguing is we todd did, and I know this all to well.  Sometimes it's just fun regardless.  I wasn't really arguing with snowcorey, and he doesn't seem to have (very) much to say anyway.


If there is a more pointless place to argue than the web...
I don't know about it.


ult

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Posted on May 15, 2008

Wake the crickets up a bit...
 
Killz...check out my new split deck...a home made job where the guy did the inside edge inlay...not that bad for $390 delivered I'd say. A 172 Never Summer Summit. I've never owned a Never Summer...so it'll be interesting. Looking forward to getting it and seeing how it rides...since I'm used to the Voile ride...which was always really soft.
 
 

Ale_Capone
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Posted on May 15, 2008

Wow,,, that's pretty sweet.
 
Do you know how the inlays where done? Is it a professional task?
 
I have considered splitting my premeir for firm days, but that's when I would want inside edges the most.

ult

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Posted on May 15, 2008

Yeah...I split a Lib Tech for my girlfriend a couple years ago and wonderred about inlaying edges. Not sure how it was done...I'm sure with the right equipement and patience, as well as trial and error (aka 'expreience') it could be done fairly well. Not really sure what would need to be done though...cutting a 'groove' out and putting new edge material in it...along with a bunch of epxoy? I don't know.

Ale_Capone
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Posted on May 16, 2008

Maybe someone who has done edge work at a shop will reply..?
 
Surely I want a secure edge, but I don't think the inside edge will ever get NEARLY the torque an outside edge would. I was wondering if maybe you could cut a slot with a router and epoxy it in from the side. kinda like biscuit jointery or watnot.

ult

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Posted on May 16, 2008

Yeah...that's what I figured as well...it would have to be a pretty slim slot though. And then how would you cover the inside edge of the metal edge...the part that's supposed to be 'in' the board? it would have to be inserted into the cut line, rather then inlayed from below...if you know what I mean. Or they'd have to cover the 'inner edge' part of the metal with more p-tex...?
 
The edges are on the outside when you're climbing/in ski mode though...which come into play on steep side hills...when it's in board mode though...I can't imagine it making much difference.
 
I'm psyched to get it and inspect it a little closer and all that.

Ale_Capone
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Posted on May 17, 2008

I have a board I am never going to ride again. I think I will spilt it and try to install edges. or at least pretend so it doesn't cost me anything. Maybe steal some steak knives from sizzler. Magna tracition that btich!!!!
 
One of the guys I ride with has a NS t-5 split that has full metal edges. it was still a normal board that was split though. all the nut holes are for normal bindings, and the split pucks are permanantly t-bolted into place. so no adjusting stnace angles or width.

ult

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Posted on May 19, 2008

Got it over the weekend...the inner edge looks fine and it's hard to tell any difference between it and the 'origianl' edge.
 
Now I have to commit to a stance angle/width and put the pucks down permenantly....*gulp*

ult

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Posted on Jun 03, 2008

I get to be one of the last people in America to vote today after work...
 
Like it matters, nationally, at this point?

Snowolf

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Posted on Jun 11, 2008

Perp, it is a backcountry thing. Splitting the board and using each half like skis with skins is a lot more efficient a way to "hike" to the top of the lines you want to drop. At the top, you click it back together and you are ready to ride. Personally, I have not gotten into them as I don`t do they type of backcountry where one is needed. I do all of my hiking in the summer when the snowpack is firm and on a glacier. I use crampons or a small show with ice cleats. When it`s winter, I am busy instructing and when there is a chairlift available, I am riding rather than walking.
 
EDIT:
 
Hey Kill and Ult and Ale, how do those things ride? I looked at a split at Hillcrest the other day and I did`nt like how the thing felt flimsy even put together. It seemed to me that it would have torsional flex issues. I have never ridden on a split so don`t know what to expect. Is there anything noticably different about they way they feel?
 
 
 
 

[Edited by Snowolf on 6/11/2008 at 6:08 AM]

ult

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Posted on Jun 11, 2008

First of all...if you're doing any travelling in the back country...split's are the way to go...no weight on your back (The board isn't on your pack...it's on the snow) and you get the added benefits of a little glide with each step. About the only time I can think of slowshoes being 'better' would be a short quick, steep uphill...where you pretty much have to hike straight up. Even in spring/summer you'll get rotten snow and post hole up to your waist....wasting energy and time.
That said...I've never really noticed to much of a difference between a split and 'regular' board ride. I'm sure there is a slight difference...but I'm not the kind of person that fret's over my binding angles being off two degree or something being slightly different making a difference over all in the ride. They work just fine for riding...and if you're riding powder (which you *should* be if you're hiking...not always true..but hopefully) then a slightly softer ride is nice (The Voiles in the past have been a bit 'soft') and the powder is usually more forgiving a surface to ride then hard pack sun cups. Long story shorter, for torsional rigidity there probably is a slight difference but *to me* it isn't much of an issue over all. Just enjoy the ride.
 
I might have to put up a Split Board 101 one of these days...between me, Killz, Ale and others I'm sure we could put together a decent split board FAQ.

Killclimbz
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Posted on Jun 11, 2008

Mine rides just  like a Neversummer Summit.  I am not sure what interface or what year you were looking at Wolfy.  So hard to say, but mine is rock solid.  Fact is, splitboards are typically stiffer torsionally because of the metal plates that slide over the pucks, inhibit that sort of flex.  I've ridden splits at the resort and haven't really noticed any difference.  The main thing is that you don't really want to make a habit out of it, plus they do weigh a bit more which is a small price to pay in the bc for the convenience.
If there is a more pointless place to argue than the web...
I don't know about it.


logikly

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Posted on Oct 10, 2008

So I've been away from sb.com for like a year now (lost interest, plus got warning from my boss and I only came on sb during worktime (no comments) ) So I left as a responsability dodger and now I come back as a young at heart for I have passed the mystical 30th birthday. WOOOOOT!
 
cheers all you other old farts!
this is my signature, enjoy it.


Ale_Capone
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Posted on Oct 11, 2008

Welcome to the club!!
 
Now get back to work!

1tothe80

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Posted on May 19, 2009

 sup peeps...
um,wuz^
-rider-
shut up and smile


nmMike

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Posted on May 20, 2009

Posted by 1tothe80
 sup peeps...


ZZzzzzz - huh? - ZZzzzzz

tooscoops
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Posted on May 20, 2009

he must have typed that really loudly to wake you from your slumber!  my goodness...
haikus are easy
but sometimes they don't make sense
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ult

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Posted on May 20, 2009

No doubt.
 
First Joe posting briefly...now nmmike...nothing like a year or so between posts.
 
Folks seem to be coming out of the wood work to some degree...not to say that conversation has picked up or anything...just getting a few old timer guest stars lately. 

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