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Ale_Capone
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Posted on May 16, 2007

I think half the posting that has gone here in the past week or so has been mostly under 30.
 
And which season is it you are speaking of? I fully intend NOT to let go this year. I have that "ride all 12 months" thing I am going to try to scratch off my life list this year.

Sushicat

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Posted on May 16, 2007

WHAT!!!  
 
Oh okay, I'm old and a little hard of hearing. 
 
My dreams of living somewhere close enough to the mountains that I can ride whenever I'm not at work is going to require funding.  I'm working 2 jobs, so I haven't posted much lately.   Sleep is getting a higher priority than sb.com. 

Ale_Capone
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Posted on May 16, 2007

Well, at least you have your priorities right... um, that would be the two jobs so you can live closer to the mountains prioity, not the sleep before here one. As I have said before, sleep is overrated.
 
Hope the plan is coming along for you.

shayboarder
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Posted on May 17, 2007

The only month of riding i'll miss this summer is July.  I'll be up for last weekend of A Basin and then riding Timberline in August.  So my season will still be going strong even though i'm in CO now :)
 
Sushi, glad you are moving to the mountains!  Eh working 2 jobs to make sure you make the move easier and get out here is totally worth it. 
 
I love sleep so i won't say it's overrated...but sometimes you can get away with little sleep.
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Ale_Capone
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Posted on May 17, 2007

Posted by shayboarder
 
 
I love sleep so i won't say it's overrated..
 
But when you are sleeping you are just laying there doing nothing. The only good part about sleeping is when you wake up, and then go back to sleep. The whole in between part is kind of blank. I just wake up tired, drink a coffee, and then everything is fine. I really don't feel much differance between 6 and 8 hours sleep, and anything more then 8, I start to feel more tired then if I had just done 6... Although less then 6 can start to have ill effects after a while.

shayboarder
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Posted on May 17, 2007

^^yeah laying there doing nothing...is relaxing and refreshes you. I also have good dreams when i sleep so that helps, i can do without the nightmares...those are the worst
[Edited by shayboarder on 5/17/2007 at 11:22 AM]
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ult

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Posted on May 17, 2007

Posted by nmMike
The epitaph I gave over FJA may be appropriate over the entire Forum.  Yea, it usually slows down right after the season I guess.  But man, the cobwebs that hit you when you walk in are freaky.
 
It's pretty much *all* the forums at this point. Only about 20-30 or so regular clique posters at it at this point....with the usual newbie tossed in here and there.
 
It would be interesting to see some stats on how many users make up what percentage's of posts. I'd guess there's 10 or so posters that make up give-or-take 80% of all the posts. And now it's that much more obvious.

nmMike

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Posted on May 17, 2007

It is sad - and I wish the owners well.  But they missed the wave by not adding some amazing features back when they changed the software.  And a serious investor might have helped... but all we got was a slicker look and lost content.  No one really cares that behind the curtain were new servers and a better database.  I'm just a student of trends in this area - no agenda.  Again, I wish them all the best.  But in my opinion, the only way to get back on the wave is to beg retailers to make themselves unusually accessible in here, get the instructors to come in, and figure out a way to get 5-10 real professional riders to stop in every week.  But I seriously doubt it's doable.  They still have the "snowbaord.com" link into colonies.com.  But I'd put dinner at a nice restaurant on if all of the other colonies together meet the snowboard community.  Which means - the tie-in of the various obsessions (cats, bmx, dogs) didn't happen.  It was a vision from within to make it work - but there wasn't any external force driving it to happen.  Put another way - sites like facebook, myspace, etc offered something new that kids flocked too like lemings.  They met a incredibly cool "new thing" (need.)  You have to find colonies.com; push yourself to get involved in it; and then perhaps you'll tell some friends about it.  It's just not meeting a need anymore - not like it was 3 years ago BEFORE myspace, etc was out there.  Now you can get the contacts, communication, snowboard-specific stuff in those other sites.

As far as traffic as you mentioned.  Unfortunately, what they used to do was provide advertisers with information like membership numbers, hits, demogaphics, etc.  But now advertisers can get 90% of that stuff from independent internet traffic auditing companies that can give accurate numbers without the bias of the site ownership.  And companies that are found inflating their real membership base are now paying for that lie.

I don't personally think there is much else that can be said here.  Except, that now that I've defined the trend and likely outcome - I'd love to see these owners or some other vendors figure out how to get around and make it work!

So I'm here as long as some mutual friends from the glory days are here.  But i have my doubts that we'll be making too many new friends.  But it doesn't matter if I say one way or another.  It will either work or it won't regardless of my opinion... so let's see!

PowderKeg

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Posted on May 18, 2007

Dang! A fresh start, I guess.

Sorry I haven't been around much...gave myself a little timeout.

I had an incredible trip to AK over spring break. Did some resort stuff at Alyeska, and some hiking too. Definitely on the  Go Back list. This trip was more of an exploratory mission. Next year I know exactly where I'm gonna be playing. For the price of 1 day of heli skiing I can rent sleds for a week and REALLY have some fun.

I think the lack of enthusiasm could be due to most of the country having a crappy snow year (with the exception of CO and AK) and everyone just losing stoke.

Now I just gotta get my boat running so I can wakeboard!


shayboarder
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Posted on May 18, 2007

Psh you can always make new friends on here...it's those who don't invite others in or form the old school mentality that scare the new people.  I've met some awesome new people on here and looking forward to hanging out with them. 
 
Nice Powder!  I love Alyeska, I haven't been there in a couple years but when i went riding there it was a really amazing mountain and Anchorage is a cool town to hang out in.  Maybe i'll go back :)
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nmMike

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Posted on May 20, 2007

hey Carmen.  Not sure what stats are being played on this version - but it used to be # of people signed in at any one time.  They didn't really use a "sign out" so if you logged in at 9am in the morning to check your email - you might still get counted at 10:30.  And there was a multiplier used at different times of the day.

You my friend are a late bloomer if you just saw mySpace for the first time!  But that's OK.  Actually, for the most part my kids aren't using it very much either.  It's pretty much back to using the phone and seeing people in person for them.  With mySpace being a way to keep a page out there for old friends to come find you.

Ale_Capone
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Posted on May 20, 2007

Posted by shayboarder
Psh you can always make new friends on here...it's those who don't invite others in or form the old school mentality that scare the new people.  I've met some awesome new people on here and looking forward to hanging out with them. 
 
 
I have made more new friends, and met more new people in the real world in the past year then I had in the previous five years of hanging out on this site. In the past month or so alone I have met, and rode with well over a dozen people. Yes, teh forums might be a bit slow at this point, but I have always thought the forums only represented maybe 10% of this websites activity anways.
 
Anyhow, I am not giving up a=on this place just yet.

riderspro

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Posted on May 21, 2007

^^ I've made a bunch of friends on here as well, so I won't be giving up. But honestly the site has to make money or it will die. Simple business 101.

Huh, so there was another flame war that made Mike decide to change his name? News to me.

 

For whatever reason, I clicked on the chat thread, which I usually do not. So disclaimer, if anyone ever said hello to me in here I did not see it.

 

Anyway, you are bringing up something that has been on my mind for a while, why is SB not getting the hits it used to. Honestly, I think snowboarding was more popular a few years ago. With the modern advent of ski technology, lots of people are switching back. I am going to give it a shot and see what happens. I always liked snowboarding better on the right conditions, but have been quick to point out that skis are more applicable to wider variety of terrain.

 

There used to be numerous threads about what was better snowboarding or skiing, and it always resulted in a flame war and comments of “oh dude that argument is like so 1995 yo”

 

So last weekend I was having beers with Gary and Shay and saying that I never really figured out why I was on the 30+ forum. I think it was just to see more threads. I posted in about 5 sections, and 30+ was one of them. Then I kind of developed friends that only posted in 30+ and so I came back to see what they said. I have always had a problem with age segregation though.

 

So then, a day or two later, it finally occurred to me the larger segregation, skiing. A large percentage of the people I ride with are skiers. It is nice to talk about snowboarding specific stuff with people sometimes, but as a whole, it really does not matter. So why then post on a snowboard specific site?

 

I think this is the real reason SB has been in decline. I liked V1 better without all of the ratings and shit. But I just turned mine off and was not too concerned with it. But I think the bigger reason is that people cannot interact with their skier friends, skiing is gaining popularity, and this site is in essence perpetuating the skier/snowboarder fight. Even with the Colony of ski (which I just clicked on fir the first time ever) why would I want to post ideas there that would only be answered by skiers?

 

Joe, I’ve read a lot of what you have said over the years and talked to you a handful of times and you seem like a cool dude no doubt; so sorry if you take any offence at that. And as a bonus I will offer my solution to you free of charge. Unless you get really, really rich, and then if you want to throw me some bones, that would be sweet. Here it is: Meld all of the Colonies into one new URL… Change the name to (edited to protect Intellectual Property) Obviously leave the old URL’s, but have everything roll into the new one.

 

Why was SB so much of a hit in around 2004/5? I don’t know, but it was. Maybe as simple as one bar or nightclub getting hot and then dying. Maybe my idea above of skiing gaining momentum snowboarding.

 

Rock on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




shayboarder
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Posted on May 21, 2007

I've heard that having beers with me...means you are in for trouble.  Beers + Shay = Trouble. 



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nmMike

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Posted on May 21, 2007


Interesting.  I'd have to agree with you on the importance of "snowboard" only anymore.  And the reasons that you mention... there isn't an us/them anymore.  Well, unless you live here in New Mexico.  But it's not there anymore with the kids.  And you are correct, they are doing both or have 50/50 friends on either side - so why segregate them.  Excellent points.  I was only looking at the technology... not the snow industry.  But I'm not sure I'd agree with your solution.  If they agreed the niche markets are over and merged them - what would they have that myspace or facebook or utube isn't offering at incredible investment and advertising?  Unless perhaps a "snowsports" colony.  But then I don't think technically there is the mass hysteria to get people telling 5-10 of their friends... and those telling 5-10, etc.

So why'd it work before - I still contend it was the right focus prior to these other community sites.  AND... I'd agree with you that snowboarding isn't the cool step-child it used to be. 

Interesting thoughts.


Posted by riderspro
^^ I've made a bunch of friends on here as well, so I won't be giving up. But honestly the site has to make money or it will die. Simple business 101.

Huh, so there was another flame war that made Mike decide to change his name? News to me.

 

For whatever reason, I clicked on the chat thread, which I usually do not. So disclaimer, if anyone ever said hello to me in here I did not see it.

 

Anyway, you are bringing up something that has been on my mind for a while, why is SB not getting the hits it used to. Honestly, I think snowboarding was more popular a few years ago. With the modern advent of ski technology, lots of people are switching back. I am going to give it a shot and see what happens. I always liked snowboarding better on the right conditions, but have been quick to point out that skis are more applicable to wider variety of terrain.

 

There used to be numerous threads about what was better snowboarding or skiing, and it always resulted in a flame war and comments of “oh dude that argument is like so 1995 yo”

 

So last weekend I was having beers with Gary and Shay and saying that I never really figured out why I was on the 30+ forum. I think it was just to see more threads. I posted in about 5 sections, and 30+ was one of them. Then I kind of developed friends that only posted in 30+ and so I came back to see what they said. I have always had a problem with age segregation though.

 

So then, a day or two later, it finally occurred to me the larger segregation, skiing. A large percentage of the people I ride with are skiers. It is nice to talk about snowboarding specific stuff with people sometimes, but as a whole, it really does not matter. So why then post on a snowboard specific site?

 

I think this is the real reason SB has been in decline. I liked V1 better without all of the ratings and shit. But I just turned mine off and was not too concerned with it. But I think the bigger reason is that people cannot interact with their skier friends, skiing is gaining popularity, and this site is in essence perpetuating the skier/snowboarder fight. Even with the Colony of ski (which I just clicked on fir the first time ever) why would I want to post ideas there that would only be answered by skiers?

 

Joe, I’ve read a lot of what you have said over the years and talked to you a handful of times and you seem like a cool dude no doubt; so sorry if you take any offence at that. And as a bonus I will offer my solution to you free of charge. Unless you get really, really rich, and then if you want to throw me some bones, that would be sweet. Here it is: Meld all of the Colonies into one new URL… Change the name to (edited to protect Intellectual Property) Obviously leave the old URL’s, but have everything roll into the new one.

 

Why was SB so much of a hit in around 2004/5? I don’t know, but it was. Maybe as simple as one bar or nightclub getting hot and then dying. Maybe my idea above of skiing gaining momentum snowboarding.

 

Rock on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




riderspro

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Posted on May 21, 2007

Posted by shayboarder
I've heard that having beers with me...means you are in for trouble.  Beers + Shay = Trouble. 





Nuh Uh, I had beers with you and got into no trouble at all.

shayboarder
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Posted on May 22, 2007

Posted by riderspro
Posted by shayboarder
I've heard that having beers with me...means you are in for trouble.  Beers + Shay = Trouble. 





Nuh Uh, I had beers with you and got into no trouble at all.


Your too good to corrupt haha.
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olerubbertoe

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Posted on May 30, 2007

I tried to buy a Titan TX on ebay from some shop in Broomfield, Co and paypal will not let me use my credit card without giving them my banking info.  Piss on em.
 
There's a Rome Flag coming up for a little less money, I might buy it.  It's taken me 50 years to get a  credit card with enough limit to start a coop in most countries and they won't let me use it.

[Edited by olerubbertoe on 5/30/2007 at 6:21 PM]

olerubbertoe

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Posted on Jun 01, 2007

Bought the TX another place.  Be here Monday.  I might have to make a trip to white sands.  The runs are short but the right color.

Ale_Capone
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Posted on Jun 03, 2007

Posted by olerubbertoe
Bought the TX another place.  Be here Monday.  I might have to make a trip to white sands.  The runs are short but the right color.
 
 
Or you could take a trip to somewhere with snow. I'd use the old board on anything called"sands".

shayboarder
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Posted on Jun 04, 2007

Yeah take the TX to snow :)  Good choice by the way!
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Snowolf

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Posted on Jun 10, 2007

Sandboarding huh? I tried it down in Florence, OR. You really have to use the right wax and you damn near need to rewax every run. Imagine the stickiest snow you have ridden on and multiply it by 2. For me, it was not worth the effort, but then again I have snow somewhere all summer long so I may be just a wee bit spoiled.

Snowolf

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Posted on Jun 15, 2007

Wow thats really cool, you sound like a great dad...the kid`s lucky!

Ale_Capone
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Posted on Jun 15, 2007

Yeah, but the poor kid is never gonna get laid in that thing!!! Give him the Jetta! You keep the out dated old man car.

wrathfuldeity

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Posted on Jun 15, 2007

MPD, I'm with Ale but my suggestion is the party bus and he could start a nomadic harem.  The cougar mobile is just  scary.

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